Michael Shellenberger

I mean, I mean, what are the chances, right? That like all three of these executives are, I mean... You know, it's like it's also sort of like I mean, it's it's funny because the way that the the defenders of it sort of talk about it is as though they're imposing equality. Actually, they're demanding that that it not be based on merit.

I mean, I mean, what are the chances, right? That like all three of these executives are, I mean... You know, it's like it's also sort of like I mean, it's it's funny because the way that the the defenders of it sort of talk about it is as though they're imposing equality. Actually, they're demanding that that it not be based on merit.

I mean, first of all, there was never any evidence that the fire departments were like systematically or structurally excluding qualified people. I mean, it's not to say that never happened. There wasn't some racism. I mean, of course there is. But it's like. They got into a situation where people are getting promoted who were not as qualified as other people on basis of race.

I mean, first of all, there was never any evidence that the fire departments were like systematically or structurally excluding qualified people. I mean, it's not to say that never happened. There wasn't some racism. I mean, of course there is. But it's like. They got into a situation where people are getting promoted who were not as qualified as other people on basis of race.

I mean, first of all, there was never any evidence that the fire departments were like systematically or structurally excluding qualified people. I mean, it's not to say that never happened. There wasn't some racism. I mean, of course there is. But it's like. They got into a situation where people are getting promoted who were not as qualified as other people on basis of race.

I mean, that is anathema to the American system. And by the way, the people of California have now twice rejected racial preferences. One of them in 1996, I believe, and then the other, again, in 20—was it 2018, I believe?

I mean, that is anathema to the American system. And by the way, the people of California have now twice rejected racial preferences. One of them in 1996, I believe, and then the other, again, in 20—was it 2018, I believe?

I mean, that is anathema to the American system. And by the way, the people of California have now twice rejected racial preferences. One of them in 1996, I believe, and then the other, again, in 20—was it 2018, I believe?

Well, yeah, and they haven't. No, they haven't. I mean, the spirit of California, I mean, there's a true spirit of California that I do think is very American, which is really egalitarianism. I mean, the American creed, If you believe Daniel Bell's analysis of it, you know, it's liberty, it's laissez-faire, it's individualism, and it's egalitarianism. That's the state I grew up in.

Well, yeah, and they haven't. No, they haven't. I mean, the spirit of California, I mean, there's a true spirit of California that I do think is very American, which is really egalitarianism. I mean, the American creed, If you believe Daniel Bell's analysis of it, you know, it's liberty, it's laissez-faire, it's individualism, and it's egalitarianism. That's the state I grew up in.

Well, yeah, and they haven't. No, they haven't. I mean, the spirit of California, I mean, there's a true spirit of California that I do think is very American, which is really egalitarianism. I mean, the American creed, If you believe Daniel Bell's analysis of it, you know, it's liberty, it's laissez-faire, it's individualism, and it's egalitarianism. That's the state I grew up in.

It was the most American of all states. That's right. It's not equity. It's equality of opportunity.

It was the most American of all states. That's right. It's not equity. It's equality of opportunity.

It was the most American of all states. That's right. It's not equity. It's equality of opportunity.

That seemed like a great system to me. It's great. I mean, that's what I love. I mean, it's the part I love about California. It's like, I lived on the East Coast for like a year. It was a traumatic experience. You'd go to parties and someone would be like, oh, what school did you go to? Oh, totally. Totally. And then they'd be kind of looking over your shoulder and you're like, well, what?

That seemed like a great system to me. It's great. I mean, that's what I love. I mean, it's the part I love about California. It's like, I lived on the East Coast for like a year. It was a traumatic experience. You'd go to parties and someone would be like, oh, what school did you go to? Oh, totally. Totally. And then they'd be kind of looking over your shoulder and you're like, well, what?

That seemed like a great system to me. It's great. I mean, that's what I love. I mean, it's the part I love about California. It's like, I lived on the East Coast for like a year. It was a traumatic experience. You'd go to parties and someone would be like, oh, what school did you go to? Oh, totally. Totally. And then they'd be kind of looking over your shoulder and you're like, well, what?

Like, who cares what school I went to? Like, you know, who am I? Exactly. Where are my passions? Exactly. So that was like I was like, wow, that is like that is weird. You know, in California, it's like, what's your jam, dude? You know, it's like really like, what are you into? You know, it's that's like the best of it. Who are you as a person? Yeah. Who are you as a person? It's the human.

Like, who cares what school I went to? Like, you know, who am I? Exactly. Where are my passions? Exactly. So that was like I was like, wow, that is like that is weird. You know, in California, it's like, what's your jam, dude? You know, it's like really like, what are you into? You know, it's that's like the best of it. Who are you as a person? Yeah. Who are you as a person? It's the human.

Like, who cares what school I went to? Like, you know, who am I? Exactly. Where are my passions? Exactly. So that was like I was like, wow, that is like that is weird. You know, in California, it's like, what's your jam, dude? You know, it's like really like, what are you into? You know, it's that's like the best of it. Who are you as a person? Yeah. Who are you as a person? It's the human.