Michael Shellenberger

Is it not? That's so well-spoken. No, no, it's totally brilliantly well-spoken. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, it's like we, in our next book, we're working on this idea of these singularities, meaning like these just awful events in the past, the Holocaust, slavery, indigenous genocide. Yes. And they become like gods for secular people. They become like super present.

Like, you know, there's – it's just everything that we do is affected by slavery and, you know, everything. This is indigenous land. I mean, I was going through the – I was just going through all of like the various documents over the years of like water and fire and disaster in Los Angeles. And they like all open with land acknowledgments. You know, you're just like, well, yeah, but –

Like, you know, there's – it's just everything that we do is affected by slavery and, you know, everything. This is indigenous land. I mean, I was going through the – I was just going through all of like the various documents over the years of like water and fire and disaster in Los Angeles. And they like all open with land acknowledgments. You know, you're just like, well, yeah, but –

Like, you know, there's – it's just everything that we do is affected by slavery and, you know, everything. This is indigenous land. I mean, I was going through the – I was just going through all of like the various documents over the years of like water and fire and disaster in Los Angeles. And they like all open with land acknowledgments. You know, you're just like, well, yeah, but –

Literally, you think that white people don't belong here. That is literally what you're saying in those land acknowledgments. You're saying, we don't belong here. And you may have seen, there's a clip that went viral on social media with the deputy fire chief of Los Angeles.

Literally, you think that white people don't belong here. That is literally what you're saying in those land acknowledgments. You're saying, we don't belong here. And you may have seen, there's a clip that went viral on social media with the deputy fire chief of Los Angeles.

Literally, you think that white people don't belong here. That is literally what you're saying in those land acknowledgments. You're saying, we don't belong here. And you may have seen, there's a clip that went viral on social media with the deputy fire chief of Los Angeles.

Where she's sort of saying, oh, yeah, people will ask me, you know, can you carry my husband out of a house, you know, in danger? And she's like, well, you know, your husband got himself in a place that he shouldn't have been. That was her response. It was like.

Where she's sort of saying, oh, yeah, people will ask me, you know, can you carry my husband out of a house, you know, in danger? And she's like, well, you know, your husband got himself in a place that he shouldn't have been. That was her response. It was like.

Where she's sort of saying, oh, yeah, people will ask me, you know, can you carry my husband out of a house, you know, in danger? And she's like, well, you know, your husband got himself in a place that he shouldn't have been. That was her response. It was like.

It's crazy. Crazy. You're like, yeah, that's literally your job is to be able to carry someone. Can you imagine, like, someone being like, oh, yeah, your father, your elderly father, you know, we couldn't carry him out of the house. And he shouldn't have been in that house when it was burned down.

It's crazy. Crazy. You're like, yeah, that's literally your job is to be able to carry someone. Can you imagine, like, someone being like, oh, yeah, your father, your elderly father, you know, we couldn't carry him out of the house. And he shouldn't have been in that house when it was burned down.

It's crazy. Crazy. You're like, yeah, that's literally your job is to be able to carry someone. Can you imagine, like, someone being like, oh, yeah, your father, your elderly father, you know, we couldn't carry him out of the house. And he shouldn't have been in that house when it was burned down.

Well, she shouldn't have been wearing a skirt. Right. Yeah. I mean, like, what? Yeah. That's like the left campaign. Like when I was in college, like that was the whole don't blame the victim. That was the whole thing. Of course, they're all. Which I would kind of agree with, by the way.

Well, she shouldn't have been wearing a skirt. Right. Yeah. I mean, like, what? Yeah. That's like the left campaign. Like when I was in college, like that was the whole don't blame the victim. That was the whole thing. Of course, they're all. Which I would kind of agree with, by the way.

Well, she shouldn't have been wearing a skirt. Right. Yeah. I mean, like, what? Yeah. That's like the left campaign. Like when I was in college, like that was the whole don't blame the victim. That was the whole thing. Of course, they're all. Which I would kind of agree with, by the way.

I know. She should have been fired as soon as that came out. I mean, and Gavin Newsom should have called for her to be fired. The mayor should have called for her to be fired. She's still in that job. I mean... That's dangerous. It's a violation of firefighter ethics. That person is a danger.

I know. She should have been fired as soon as that came out. I mean, and Gavin Newsom should have called for her to be fired. The mayor should have called for her to be fired. She's still in that job. I mean... That's dangerous. It's a violation of firefighter ethics. That person is a danger.

I know. She should have been fired as soon as that came out. I mean, and Gavin Newsom should have called for her to be fired. The mayor should have called for her to be fired. She's still in that job. I mean... That's dangerous. It's a violation of firefighter ethics. That person is a danger.

In other words, she's going around suggesting to all of her people that work for her that they're not responsible for saving. But I think it reflects the mentality, which is a nihilistic mentality, which is that we don't belong here. We stole this land. And this is this let Malibu burn. I mean, it is...