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Michael Shellenberger

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1512 total appearances

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The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

So, I mean, this is what, you know, it's like when civilization breaks down, it breaks down in like just a million small ways, you know. So, you know, is there some DEI part of it? Yeah, there was. They were promoting people not based on merit. Is there budget cuts? Absolutely. I mean, they didn't, you know, and what goes wrong when you don't have those budget cuts? Everything.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You know, I mean, the other complaint I've heard, you know, is just that. It's just the advanced thinking. It's just getting people that can kind of be thinking in advance. That's where their focus is. That's where their priority is.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You know, I mean, the other complaint I've heard, you know, is just that. It's just the advanced thinking. It's just getting people that can kind of be thinking in advance. That's where their focus is. That's where their priority is.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You know, I mean, the other complaint I've heard, you know, is just that. It's just the advanced thinking. It's just getting people that can kind of be thinking in advance. That's where their focus is. That's where their priority is.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

So the problem with the DEI is that when you're just orienting an entire organizational culture towards racial and sex quotas rather than towards, okay, you know, what about the Santa Ana wins and the fire risk and whatever? It's just we all know that, like, It's not just time in the day, it's also mind time. It's like, what do you think about when you take a shower?

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

So the problem with the DEI is that when you're just orienting an entire organizational culture towards racial and sex quotas rather than towards, okay, you know, what about the Santa Ana wins and the fire risk and whatever? It's just we all know that, like, It's not just time in the day, it's also mind time. It's like, what do you think about when you take a shower?

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

So the problem with the DEI is that when you're just orienting an entire organizational culture towards racial and sex quotas rather than towards, okay, you know, what about the Santa Ana wins and the fire risk and whatever? It's just we all know that, like, It's not just time in the day, it's also mind time. It's like, what do you think about when you take a shower?

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

What do you think about when you're putting on your shoes? Like, where is your head at? Their head has been in the clouds around, you know, DEI, the larger society, ESG, climate, homelessness. I mean... I mean, the list goes on and on. But it was on homelessness. We now know, because the state audit came out, $24 billion on homelessness since Gavin took office in 2019.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

What do you think about when you're putting on your shoes? Like, where is your head at? Their head has been in the clouds around, you know, DEI, the larger society, ESG, climate, homelessness. I mean... I mean, the list goes on and on. But it was on homelessness. We now know, because the state audit came out, $24 billion on homelessness since Gavin took office in 2019.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

What do you think about when you're putting on your shoes? Like, where is your head at? Their head has been in the clouds around, you know, DEI, the larger society, ESG, climate, homelessness. I mean... I mean, the list goes on and on. But it was on homelessness. We now know, because the state audit came out, $24 billion on homelessness since Gavin took office in 2019.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Tucker, homelessness in California increased by 40% under Gavin. Can you believe that? I mean, 40%. Because everyone goes, it's such a curious mystery as to we spent all this money on homelessness. And yet, it just increased. It's like, well, yeah, because you spent money incentivizing and subsidizing homelessness. You spent all this money to attract people from all over the United States.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Tucker, homelessness in California increased by 40% under Gavin. Can you believe that? I mean, 40%. Because everyone goes, it's such a curious mystery as to we spent all this money on homelessness. And yet, it just increased. It's like, well, yeah, because you spent money incentivizing and subsidizing homelessness. You spent all this money to attract people from all over the United States.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Tucker, homelessness in California increased by 40% under Gavin. Can you believe that? I mean, 40%. Because everyone goes, it's such a curious mystery as to we spent all this money on homelessness. And yet, it just increased. It's like, well, yeah, because you spent money incentivizing and subsidizing homelessness. You spent all this money to attract people from all over the United States.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, I interview people in California that are on the streets, and it's like, nobody's from California. I mean, they come in.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, I interview people in California that are on the streets, and it's like, nobody's from California. I mean, they come in.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, I interview people in California that are on the streets, and it's like, nobody's from California. I mean, they come in.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Oh, they want to be. See, the thing is like homeless people, they're always lonely, you know? And so they're, obviously these are people in a really bad way and they're eager to tell their story. They have a lot to say. They're not, most of them are not dumb. Some of them are not dumb at all. I was shocked by that. Oh, no. And they do lie, like, at the beginning.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Oh, they want to be. See, the thing is like homeless people, they're always lonely, you know? And so they're, obviously these are people in a really bad way and they're eager to tell their story. They have a lot to say. They're not, most of them are not dumb. Some of them are not dumb at all. I was shocked by that. Oh, no. And they do lie, like, at the beginning.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Oh, they want to be. See, the thing is like homeless people, they're always lonely, you know? And so they're, obviously these are people in a really bad way and they're eager to tell their story. They have a lot to say. They're not, most of them are not dumb. Some of them are not dumb at all. I was shocked by that. Oh, no. And they do lie, like, at the beginning.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

So, I mean, you have to... The secret to all great interviews, as you know more than anybody, is you need to have a long time. Yes. Because people tell the... They lie at first, and then the truth comes out. So, like, you'll interview people, and you'll be like, you're like, where are you from, brother? And they'll be like, oh, I was raised here.