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Michael Shellenberger

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The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like that's all it was. It was just those two things. And then, of course, then, you know, left-wing mayor of San Francisco and others are like, oh, well, we can't, like, we can't, like, require that people not camp outside. They're poor. The left, in reaction to Reagan, then took up homelessness as something that they claimed was caused by Reagan.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like that's all it was. It was just those two things. And then, of course, then, you know, left-wing mayor of San Francisco and others are like, oh, well, we can't, like, we can't, like, require that people not camp outside. They're poor. The left, in reaction to Reagan, then took up homelessness as something that they claimed was caused by Reagan.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like, I mean, he'd been in office for, like, whatever, two or three years, and they would just make ridiculous claims, you know, the Reagan budget, you know, that's why he's on the street. Yeah. So it really gets used – so it becomes viewed by the left early on as a political propaganda tool. I also blame the comics, by the way. I mean, and just I'll name them.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like, I mean, he'd been in office for, like, whatever, two or three years, and they would just make ridiculous claims, you know, the Reagan budget, you know, that's why he's on the street. Yeah. So it really gets used – so it becomes viewed by the left early on as a political propaganda tool. I also blame the comics, by the way. I mean, and just I'll name them.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like, I mean, he'd been in office for, like, whatever, two or three years, and they would just make ridiculous claims, you know, the Reagan budget, you know, that's why he's on the street. Yeah. So it really gets used – so it becomes viewed by the left early on as a political propaganda tool. I also blame the comics, by the way. I mean, and just I'll name them.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Robin Williams, Billy Crystal, Whoopi Goldberg. They did this whole thing. You may remember Comic Relief. Yeah. Where they framed the whole thing as a problem of poverty, which is just – it's just – It's just such a disservice to the people on the street who need an intervention.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Robin Williams, Billy Crystal, Whoopi Goldberg. They did this whole thing. You may remember Comic Relief. Yeah. Where they framed the whole thing as a problem of poverty, which is just – it's just – It's just such a disservice to the people on the street who need an intervention.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Robin Williams, Billy Crystal, Whoopi Goldberg. They did this whole thing. You may remember Comic Relief. Yeah. Where they framed the whole thing as a problem of poverty, which is just – it's just – It's just such a disservice to the people on the street who need an intervention.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

For addicts, there's a natural progression where you, whether from trauma or just because you enjoyed getting high, your addiction gets in the way of your job and you stop going to work, and you often live at home with your parents or with friends. You lie, steal, and cheat from them repeatedly. They give you multiple warnings. They finally kick you out. That's often the route to homelessness.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

For addicts, there's a natural progression where you, whether from trauma or just because you enjoyed getting high, your addiction gets in the way of your job and you stop going to work, and you often live at home with your parents or with friends. You lie, steal, and cheat from them repeatedly. They give you multiple warnings. They finally kick you out. That's often the route to homelessness.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

For addicts, there's a natural progression where you, whether from trauma or just because you enjoyed getting high, your addiction gets in the way of your job and you stop going to work, and you often live at home with your parents or with friends. You lie, steal, and cheat from them repeatedly. They give you multiple warnings. They finally kick you out. That's often the route to homelessness.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You end up on the street. That's the moment where the society, the family and friends were not able to impose an intervention. So the way it should work is that you end up, you go out camp on the street and the cop goes, hey, you can't camp here.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You end up on the street. That's the moment where the society, the family and friends were not able to impose an intervention. So the way it should work is that you end up, you go out camp on the street and the cop goes, hey, you can't camp here.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You end up on the street. That's the moment where the society, the family and friends were not able to impose an intervention. So the way it should work is that you end up, you go out camp on the street and the cop goes, hey, you can't camp here.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And they go, what am I supposed to do? And they're like, well, we're going to take you to jail or you can go to rehab. Like those are your two choices, two choices. A natural intervention is imposed in that situation. What progressives and Democrats did for 40 years is they just removed the intervention in the name of compassion. The most compassionate thing is to impose the intervention.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And they go, what am I supposed to do? And they're like, well, we're going to take you to jail or you can go to rehab. Like those are your two choices, two choices. A natural intervention is imposed in that situation. What progressives and Democrats did for 40 years is they just removed the intervention in the name of compassion. The most compassionate thing is to impose the intervention.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And they go, what am I supposed to do? And they're like, well, we're going to take you to jail or you can go to rehab. Like those are your two choices, two choices. A natural intervention is imposed in that situation. What progressives and Democrats did for 40 years is they just removed the intervention in the name of compassion. The most compassionate thing is to impose the intervention.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, the thing that's most common, I'll even find this with like harm reduction workers. I was just with some harm reduction workers in California. In Skid Row. And one of them was telling me the whole usual thing. Oh, you can't make somebody get clean. They have to hit their own bottom, like whatever. And I was like, and they were like, I used to run around here, you know, on meth.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, the thing that's most common, I'll even find this with like harm reduction workers. I was just with some harm reduction workers in California. In Skid Row. And one of them was telling me the whole usual thing. Oh, you can't make somebody get clean. They have to hit their own bottom, like whatever. And I was like, and they were like, I used to run around here, you know, on meth.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, the thing that's most common, I'll even find this with like harm reduction workers. I was just with some harm reduction workers in California. In Skid Row. And one of them was telling me the whole usual thing. Oh, you can't make somebody get clean. They have to hit their own bottom, like whatever. And I was like, and they were like, I used to run around here, you know, on meth.