Michael Shellenberger
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Well, I thought also that, you know, you may have seen Marc Andreessen recently said that when he met with White House officials who said that they wanted to take control over all AI, that they said to him something like, we've declassified whole areas of science since the 1950s. And I was like, that just seemed like a reference to this stuff, right?
At least to the anti-gravity, if not to some of the UAP stuff.
At least to the anti-gravity, if not to some of the UAP stuff.
At least to the anti-gravity, if not to some of the UAP stuff.
Well, like for a hundred years, right? Really from Darwin, nearly 150 years.
Well, like for a hundred years, right? Really from Darwin, nearly 150 years.
Well, like for a hundred years, right? Really from Darwin, nearly 150 years.
Well, it sure seemed like it. I mean, there's a really positive side of it though, which is that we haven't had these awful wars. Yes. Brutal. I mean, when you look at the death toll that was going up and up and up from wars all throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, it's awful. So, they've spared us that, but it took something apocalyptic.
Well, it sure seemed like it. I mean, there's a really positive side of it though, which is that we haven't had these awful wars. Yes. Brutal. I mean, when you look at the death toll that was going up and up and up from wars all throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, it's awful. So, they've spared us that, but it took something apocalyptic.
Well, it sure seemed like it. I mean, there's a really positive side of it though, which is that we haven't had these awful wars. Yes. Brutal. I mean, when you look at the death toll that was going up and up and up from wars all throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, it's awful. So, they've spared us that, but it took something apocalyptic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You mean from a foreign power or? I do. Oh. Like, what's the evidence for that?
You mean from a foreign power or? I do. Oh. Like, what's the evidence for that?
You mean from a foreign power or? I do. Oh. Like, what's the evidence for that?
I mean, I was more struck by that on the UAP, on the drone UAP. Yeah, well, exactly. It's of a piece. Yeah.
I mean, I was more struck by that on the UAP, on the drone UAP. Yeah, well, exactly. It's of a piece. Yeah.
I mean, I was more struck by that on the UAP, on the drone UAP. Yeah, well, exactly. It's of a piece. Yeah.
Very weird.