Michael Smoak

And I sit down and it's just this black and white screen with words on it.

And my body used to move.

My body used to sort of twitch a little bit.

I literally think it was trying, it was learning what lower stimulus felt like.

And then I'd maybe try and meditate or I'd do whatever.

That whole process now in retrospect is just one of the coolest periods of my life.

And it was me in this ex-garage extension of a house in bumfuck village near Newcastle upon Tyne around the corner from a primary school.

And I just spent thousands of hours sat there just doing shit, experimenting with myself, I guess, and learning about me.

I was.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mostly trying to fit my own mouth around my own ass so that I don't need you anymore.

I just want to feed my own ideas back into myself.

That's an echo chamber right there.

True Ouroboros.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that's fucking awesome.

And lots of people, even the most powerful and successful ones.

Homozy talks about sleeping on the gym floor.

There's cars.

driving over the top of the gym where he slept and he would hear the kids that were his age partying above him and he was still downstairs and I would hear families coming and going from the school and I'd still be sat there and I'd have heard them drop the kids off on the morning and I'd still be there and they'd have left later that day and then maybe I'd be working on my laptop doing whatever now.