Michael Smoak

Yeah, that's lovely.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and because...

Your inspirations are not the people that are only one step ahead of you.

They're the people that are 15 steps ahead of you or 100 steps ahead of you.

So you compare that to where you are.

But nobody does that.

Nobody starts playing football on a weekend and says, well, Cristiano Ronaldo is so much better than me.

It's fucking pointless, me even trying.

well you know i suppose so but if there was ever a well i i was talking to louis through this morning and he said about the two jobs that british young boys want number one is still i actually think this is a good sign number one is still to be a premier league footballer i think that's a good sign but number two is be a youtuber and uh

There's this weird world where what people need, what young boys need is more resilience if they're going to do that.

And it seems like more patience as well.

It's a particularly impatient culture for people who want to be YouTubers an awful lot.

Like you and I in the park the other day, throwing the fucking, unwinding our fucking rotator cuffs for 15 minutes.

Yeah.

Clarity and conviction is perceived by those who hear it as confidence and competence.

Maybe not

There's definitely an interesting duality to it that clarity and conviction is certainly perceived as confidence and competence and insight and expertise.

But as you said, people who don't have expertise or competence

can reverse engineer their way into seeming like somebody that you should listen to.