Michael Steinberger

It's a relationship that doesn't draw much attention until Donald Trump is elected president the first time in 2016.

He had run on a promise to crack down on immigration.

And ICE is instrumental to enforcing that crackdown.

And Palantir becomes the object of protests because of its relationship with ICE.

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There are protests outside its headquarters in Palo Alto.

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and outside other Palantir offices.

There are boycotts on campuses, people saying that they don't want Palantir's recruiters to appear on their campuses.

Palantir is kicked out of several major tech conferences because people don't want it there.

And there's also a fair amount of internal dissent.

There are hundreds of employees at Palantir who make known their objection to working with ICE and to having any role in Trump's immigration crackdown.

Well, he makes clear back in Trump's first presidency that he is not a fan of Donald Trump.

But he also thinks that the protesters and Democrats more broadly are very misguided on the issue of immigration.

Voters are not happy about scenes of chaos at the border.

They don't like illegal immigration because they think that it would depress the wages of working class Americans.

And Karp's view is that if Democrats and progressives don't take those concerns seriously, they're going to turn to people who do.

That's why Donald Trump was elected in 2016, in Carp's view.

And this is a very consistent position all along for Carp.

It's the same view that informed his view of terrorism.