Michael Stevens

Thank you very much.

And it won't only really do that because it helps us explain ourselves to others.

And as I've said before, that might be something that happened not even that long ago, that social life happens.

Amongst homo sapiens became complicated enough and broad enough that we had to start being like, okay, I'm an individual, and you're someone else.

And so, yeah, I think switching our sensory input so that I'm tasting what you taste, I think I'd still you-ify it, or I guess me-ify it, and I'd say, whoa, this is happening to me.

But to what extent there's actually a me, like a part of my brain that is going, uh-huh, I'm just going to pull the levers and, oh, I'm getting a weird signal here from the taste buds.

I don't know.

I think that it's something you learn.

So I'm still learning about this.

I've got some good books about how children are believed to develop their sense of self.

And we might actually get our best evidence from the way they dream, right?

I mean, this could become a three-hour long episode.

But when you look at dreams, the earliest reports of dreams we have from humans-

They're different than the way we dream today.

And this is something we're all pretty aware of.

Like dreams from ancient texts are almost always seen as they're not as fanciful.

It is someone appeared to me while I was in my bed.

There aren't a lot of dreams that are like, whoa, I was on the beach that I'd vacationed on years ago.

And like there was this animal that was my dog, but wasn't.

No, no, no.