Michael Stumpf

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What's happening? It's Friday. You know what that means? We're going to do Q&A as advertised and promised. I got to sit down today and do some Q&A with my favorite person on the face of planet Earth. That is right. My wife, Leah. We both decided that it was the most most fair most non-biased to let Michael choose the questions. And as much as I hate to say this, it pains me to say this.

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He chose you last night. He showed me no love, affection, or regard.

And so to- He freaked out in the parking lot.

He also absolutely hates the garbage cans that we wheel to the street.

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He's a loving dog, though. I mean, Michael, you're our dog sitter. Yeah. The wean sitter. He sees Michael. I bring him to the coffee shop some mornings when Michael's working security. As soon as he recognizes him, he starts making that whiny laugh. He like jumps up into his arms. Oh, yeah. He goes crazy. But he only does that with a few people. He does not do that.

He does that for Leah, obviously. He does that when he sees me. He does it for you. A little bit for my dad. I think he's seen him enough. But really other than... And for the kids. Yeah. For both. Actually all... Tyler, for sure.

Someone afraid of Julia because she keeps fucking running at him. And so he'll run at her, put the brakes on and just haul ass under the couch.

And pee everywhere. Riley, he absolutely loves. So he's super loving, but he doesn't know you. He's still nice. I've never even seen him have the indication of biting anybody, but we can just say that one's a tie. We're both his favorite.

He showed me no regard last night. He slept with you the whole night and was still under the covers.

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And looking back at it objectively, she's a very smart kid. Oh, yeah. And it wasn't accidental. So for anybody out there... Your kids are going to feel the seams where there's overlap and where there's not.

And if they have something that they want to do, they are going to try to work it towards where there's a seam and use, you know, if a mom and dad are in the same house, it's probably pretty hard to get away with telling an incomplete story to one without the other person telling the other. When you're in different homes, you can parse your information out.

And it's a little bit easier to push the limit, change the story a little bit and get away with something you wouldn't if both parents were living in the same house.

Which were resoundingly ignored.

I started putting his dishes on his bed.

And started cutting the dick hole out of his boxers.

Payback is a bitch.

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We should talk about Riley's power move in jujitsu.

He comes to the house and gets fully dressed in his gi to include tying his belt and drives to the gym and then walks from his car fully just prepared for combat at any time. That's awesome.

Riley did say when it's motorcycle weather, he will ride to the gym in his gi.

Yeah, we will 100% wear his belt and he's going to get some really bizarre looks. I love it. He came over and just like practice his belt, practice his belt, practice his belt. He'll just stand there and just tie it and tie it and tie it. And I'm like, all right, got to go to class.

I would feel really awkward walking around town in a gi.

Be better with your time and you don't have to worry about it. Save yourself five minutes. Go there five minutes early.

So if you see my son walking around in his gi, he's not trying to fight you. He's going to class.

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I think anybody who teaches children that age deserves a sainthood. I don't even know if I could walk at two and a half. I don't, how could you possibly teach jujitsu? Yeah.

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While it's on my mind, I know you've had a bunch of students, you've started them young and eventually they trail off. Is there anything that you've identified that is more likely to get somebody to give up on it at that younger age?

What if they're in class?

Have you noticed the harder the parents push, the less likely it is for the student to sustain in those teen years maybe? Younger, like you were saying, they have a little bit less of a choice.

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Casting gravity. A license, I think, is 20 jumps.

To get your A license, you'll go through the AFF or Accelerated Free Fall Program. Most people start with a tandem. Then they have an instructor holding on to each side. I think at the level three now, you go out with one instructor. Level four is, I believe, the release dive where they let go of you and you're actually falling on your own. Seven jumps in, you can graduate.

I think if you get to 20, you're eligible for your A license.

No, there is zero sensation.

There's not. If you do a zero airspeed jump out of a hot air balloon, you'll feel the stomach rising.

No, out of a plane, I'm saying you're not going to feel it.

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This man does science for a living.

He tried to tell me that there was a chance that if he exited the aircraft in flight, a skydiving aircraft, which by the way, he was telling me the door was on the incorrect side of the aircraft to begin with. So this is giving me an idea of his recall in the moment. That if he pushed forward hard enough, he'd get sucked into the engine.

But there is no sensation. So even a twin otter or a caravan, which would be very traditional skydiving aircraft, they slow down on exit. So there's not as much wind that hits you. But you're still doing 70, 80 knots. So that's going to be... close to 90 miles per hour, you do not get, even for an instant, the stomach rise. You go right into the wind.

Oh, it's the Lost Prairie Boogie.

I'm surprised you honestly. No, thank you. You would not even know that it happened.

No, the move is as the instructor, if you need to cut away for any tandem masses out there, if you need to get your passenger back into the right position, but you don't say shit. And then you just cut away and you go on with your day. Tell them about it when you're on the ground.

unacceptable wouldn't even notice the difference stressful yeah yeah probably because i would have my eyes closed but yeah you have no idea so my favorite tandem exit is you go out with your back facing into the wind and you do a backflip the number it's almost always guys too they're like hey i want to do that and we get to the ground and they say i thought you were going to do a backflip and we can go right back to the video and this is this is them on exit

Women are better students. They respond to the commands better. I've never had a woman jump refuse on me, but I have had some dudes change their mind at the door. We still went fine. Yes. Here's the move. Cause they'll grab the bar and you say, sir, totally get it. You need to let go of the bar so we can get back in the aircraft. They do you bear hug them and out you go.

Let's try a wind tunnel where there's no altitude at all. And they just, they turn the recirculating fan on and you can just right there.

I mean, you'd be, well, even if it does stop, the fan spools down. So you would just decrease until you're on the net.

Then tandem, then AFF.

I'll be one of the AFF instructors.

I don't know if I want to take Tyler.

No, he'd be the kind of kid who, in mid-free fall, would unzip his fly and whip his dong out.

Michael, you know him.

People do naked skydive. Well, you saw it when we were in Iceland. Oh, believe me, I saw it. I saw it way more than I wanted to. And you know what's interesting? Nobody wants to see that. I don't know why they do it. And those poor bastards landed miles off the drop zone, nude, and had to work their way back.

I don't want to see that shit. Not for me.

Fucking hot dog just getting smashed around. Like, nobody wants to see that.

We're going to get right into the questions. I don't know. How do you want to kick it off? Yeah. It's been a year since you've been back. I guess it's about how long it takes me to get you to do stuff.

You know, do you, is that blog post still alive? Yeah.

I can link it to the episode. So I'll put it in the show notes.

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You've ridden in one twice, though. So you went there and back. You've had four helicopter rides.

That's what all the training is for.

Sometimes when you're on the road, I go into the garage and the house and I throw stuff out.

I would say 70 to 80% of your license beyond the basic control of the helicopter is emergency procedures. What do you do if you lose an engine down low? What do you do if you lose an engine on takeoff? What do you do to lose one high over mountainous terrain, over trees, over water?

Yeah. You make it work. Sure.

Do you want to fly it? There's a set of controls I can put in there for you.

How are we going to train you for, if I pass out, you have to land it.

Oh, God damn it. I thought I was sneaky. None of you fuckers have any leverage on me. I just told her everything.

But I'm going to put the other controls in there and I'm going to pretend to pass out because we have to get you ready.

Don't worry about doing your best. We'll practice. We'll put together a training protocol. We'll call it the stroke training protocol. When I freaking stroke out and you're like, I got this. You just land it. No.

Isn't that?

Michael went for his first, was that two days ago? When was that?

Not in your skills, but just in like. Unfortunately, both of you guys, your nervousness is placed in the wrong area. Like I'm fine with your skills, but these twin turbines, those are just going to not work at some point. You really should be looking in the other direction with that.

He did a good job. He blended some jujitsu stuff, some life stuff, little relationship stuff. He did a very good job. He blended it all together. It was 200 plus questions. Thank you for everybody who submitted a question and hopefully we'll be able to do it again. It wasn't a pressure-filled environment. I think she enjoyed it.

He should try to be, let's be honest. Was it the left, right, or up or down? Was there a combination? Because we had a tailwind on the way back, so we were making better time, but I don't remember being any more... sashay, if you will.

How long have you known that I've been doing that?

God, I wish you would have told me. I was feeling nauseous.

I'd be like, oh, check me out. Yeah, no.

Is there puke bags? Nope, but you're wearing a T-shirt. Pull the old collar of that out. Yeah. So you're open to more helicopter adventures.

And I need your help exposing the ween.

Well, what I want to do next week is have him all set up with his ear pro. I don't think he needs to wear the goggles, even though maybe he should for content. turn it on and just let it idle. So he's used to that. Cause he's been in the helicopter walking around. He doesn't seem to have an issue. And then the very first time just hover for maybe a minute, come back down and just hand them off.

And then like the third or fourth time we'll take him for a flight, a little flight. I think he's going to dig it.

84% of hunting.

That's not acceptable.

Those were, is that what we're going to call it?

And what do you do? What do you prepare yourself for mentally? If your guide says, we're just going to go for a short hike.

When the guide says it's going to be a short hike, strap in for 10 miles.

So I'm going to have to up my game. I'm not going to put it in our trash anymore.

Did you enjoy the elk interactions in Utah last year?

It's hard to describe those interactions in Utah.

It might be somebody's trash on our street. It might be trash elsewhere. You're going to get in trouble for garbage diving. No, no. That would be you. I am just, God damn it. I didn't even consider that. Yeah. I've done it a bunch. Move, counter move, I guess. Yeah. Michael, did you come prepared? Yeah, I've got quite a few here. Did you look at some of the questions at all?

That one bull that walked in and wanted to bugle, but kind of knew something was off and just...

I haven't found that ratio to be true at all. I think I'm at 50 to zero. No. Can we just tell me we're going fucking hiking?

They have a gear, Michael. And sometimes I think they look back. Because if I was them, I would do exactly this. I would look back and like, it looks like you're suffering. Let's pick it up a notch and just absolutely waffle stomp somebody's dick into the dirt. Just break them physically and emotionally. And at some point in time, they might have to shoot too.

And we had Dove with us, who was in Vans.

He carried the elk head out. It was awesome.

He's a big boy.

Guess what's a really good way to spot for animals.

Helicopter.

Same if you use a drone.

I didn't even touch my tags.

This year.

We need in about two weeks, I'll start getting texts from Paul and Nelson because tags are due at the end of April, I think.

He just texts me all the numbers that I don't know. And I just put all this.

Agreed. Hopefully Nelson's knee is good enough for it. Should be, it'll be a year.

180.

Legit 180. Yeah.

They span quite a few genres.

I don't think it's fair if I get to pick. Did you have any that you directly wanted to answer or do you want to turn it completely over to Michael?

That's technically possible.

I feel like I might be a slightly negative influence.

He's got a mouth like a sailor right now.

Do you want to hear some real shit talk? Sit in a room with Tyler and Julia at the same time.

It was just, nothing was safe. Your boyfriend doesn't even have a taint.

None of us knew what it meant, but first off, what, what, why did you even think or say that? But quite frankly, Julia had no response to that. I mean, there's no response. Your boyfriend doesn't even have a taint.

In my experience with Michael, that is not always a good idea. But we're going to... The number of times he's said he's come prepared, and then it's completely unprepared is beyond me.

That seems like a Tyler. Yeah.

Is this going to be the orange?

Before people ask, I don't know fucking why I flushed an orange. I don't know why I was looking at a toilet and said, I think I know something that's the exact diameter of that hole in the bottom. Let me go get it out of the fruit bowl.

Hold on. Hold on. You're skipping a few steps.

So I flushed it. Probably out of curiosity where it was going to go.

So the toilet backed up. That's weird. Water starts coming out over the top. I go and tell my dad, hey, there's something wrong with the toilet and I don't know what it is.

I did not. I'll tell you when I disclose the orange portion of this. So he goes and gets the snake, like the metal snake is like jamming this metal stake down the hole in the toilet. Nothing's coming out except probably little orange bits. I was like, weird. Never seen that before in my life. Fucking water covering the bathroom floor at this point.

Yeah. Yeah. He unscrews the toilet from the floor, gets underneath, double arm, boondock saints, carries this thing.

Have you ever watched the Moondog Saints? No.

Carries it out, puts it in the grass, lays it on its side, and is sitting there like, what in the fuck is wrong with this toilet? And that's when I told him...

No. I told him there might be an orange in there and he just walked inside. He goes, fucking get it out.

Somehow the orange got down. So I got a little hand in there and worked the fucking orange out. And then I mean, I couldn't have carried the toilet at that point. I think he reinstalled it and just went on with his day.

What's the point of asking somebody at that age? What were you thinking?

What do you consider a first date?

Yeah. Like who fucking cares what you were thinking? Don't put an orange in the toilet again. Yeah. And so it went back.

I think he just started laughing.

There was water all over the bathroom. He's just, he was like a fencer. Just freaking ha ha ha.

hmm let's see 18 of us originals graduated so at least that many we probably lost somewhere between four to six people after hell week due to an injury roll so 24 maybe yeah so he's watching him run by and uh you were what 17 18 18 going on 19

Yeah. Maybe don't come watch your kid go through hell week.

And then on like Thursday we were playing, I vaguely remember this, we were playing soccer. And by that we were standing in the sun because you're so, I didn't know how bad off you are as a student until I went back as an instructor. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, you're grinding the shit out of the students. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, you're trying to make sure they don't fucking die.

Because they're hallucinating. They haven't slept. They are getting calories, but they're dehydrated. They're losing weight. They're completely chafed from... top to tail from just the sand everywhere. And so as a student, you think you're running as fast as possible. You look like a fucking zombie. So they're like, we're going to play soccer.

Which is not open anymore. I know. It was a great spot. That was one of the best breakfast spots in Flyhead Valley that I used to tell everybody about. And I believe, didn't they say the other restaurant associated with that is closed now as well too, the higher end?

So we put like, we tipped a boat on its side on both ends. And you're just like standing there in the sun and like, like the ball could hit you and you're like, so you were playing soccer.

And, uh, I remember seeing my dad up on the berm cause instructors are up there just drinking coffee, watching. They're literally, you, you really decrease output as the week goes on. Cause you'll fucking kill them if you don't. You don't realize that as a student. And next thing you know, they're like, semen apprentice, don't come up here.

And I'm just like, and I, I think my dad asked me, how are you doing? And I looked at him like, how the fuck does it look like I'm doing?

Yeah, and he went back to class.

But they secured us from Hell Week, so he was there when they secured us from Hell Week. I was able to give him a hug. You go through a very robust medical check, and then you are put, you have, there's like a brown T-shirt waiting for you, a white T-shirt you wear before Hell Week, a brown T-shirt you wear after, so they don't say your name on it.

I think there was a Gatorade, big Gatorade, and a pizza sitting there waiting for you. And so you go through the medical check, you get that, and then you get sent to the barracks, and people are watching you sleep for about... The first 24 hours.

I have no recollection of either eating or drinking. You're a zombie.

I'm sure I probably ate some of it, but you just want to go to sleep.

And then what's crazy, I do remember this. You're so tired. You lay down and it almost feels like you can't sleep. And then you're like, and six hours has gone by. Yeah. And you really have to pee. And some people just, you know, didn't want to get up.

No, he was being a dick to the team. Okay. And I told him he could take a long walk off a short cliff.

While fucking pounding cock down his mouth.

So no, he was treating the team like shit. And I basically called him and I was like, why don't you go fuck yourself?

Probably a junior or senior.

Yep.

Yeah. He, he was, this guy was treating the team like absolute shit and I can't fucking stand bullies. I've never been able to, and nobody else would say anything.

Yeah. So I gave it right back to the coach. Told him to go fuck himself. And he was like, you're never going to make it in the fucking seals. I was like, just eat dick. And I went home. I'm like, that was like, I drove the Volkswagen fucking Vanagon four speed manual transmission home furiously. Just.

Oh, no. Maximum speed 42.

Maximum speed 42.

So I get home. I remember this. My dad was out on that back patio. And he goes, what are you doing home early? I'm like, my fucking baseball coach is a piece of shit. And he told me I was never going to make it as a SEAL. He goes, get in the car. So we get back to the same van again. Was he driving or are you driving at this point? He was a lot faster.

He didn't say a fucking word on the way back to high school. We were living on, let me see, we were on Morrissey Boulevard at that time. We were on Trevithan. And did he lock the brakes up when we parked in the outfield? Not like on the grass, the baseball, the way the road fence and like the dugout and stuff was here, but you parked here. I don't think he locked it up.

Did you order the chicken and waffles there?

I don't want to oversell the story. He got out and made a fucking beeline for that coach. And that coach was over by where they were doing batting practice.

I've never known my dad without a mustache. He had a, probably just a, just a dick broom at that time.

Yeah.

Oh, he'd been playing rugby for 30, 40 years. And coach saw him coming. He had a little bit of a purpose to his steps. The coach started walking at him and they collided in the outfield.

Don't ever fucking talk to my son like that again.

We had a game the next day. I don't know if you know this. Nobody wants to play catcher because it fucking sucks.

You're there like squatted over relatively often getting hit squarely in the fucking balls.

Completely silent on the drive.

That guy's lucky he didn't take his head off.

There was definitely some verbal altercations. They played the radio game. My dad turned off his transmit button for a little bit. He was on receive only. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't, there has been a few times in my life where somebody is talking like that and they think they can just get away from it, get away with it. And I don't care. I'll be the person that says something and I don't give a fuck.

Yeah. I'll be honest. I don't know if I would have been able to recall that that was our first date.

I'm like, Oh no, I don't get to play baseball. Fuck you.

And had I not been able to play baseball again, I knew what classroom that guy was in. I would have gone in and just absolutely ran my dick around every fucking inside rim of the cup that he used in his own class.

Because I would have absolutely ruined his fucking life. Yeah. From a slow, passive, aggressive sense of whatever a 17 year old could do. No.

Elevator is a tough environment. There's no escape.

I'm fine with him telling what he thinks, but you better be fucking be ready for game time right after.

Any ladies out there who want to go watch rugby players, his shorts will be at a maximum of a two inch inseam. So he'll be out there playing rugby next tournament in Spokane. No big deal. Yeah. So come on by. Yeah.

But we did go there for breakfast. All right.

Okay.

That's right, motherfuckers.

My answer is actually very similar. It was the first thing that attracted me to you was just the way that your brain works. I've said this to you, that you have a capability for empathy that I wish that I had. I would snap on people long before you get to the place where you sternly look at them. I don't know.

I'm less patient with people that rub me the wrong way or want to be creepers.

No, it was your brain. It, uh, the way that your brain works, just the way that you treat people is exactly the same thing.

What were you going to add on to that, Michael?

It's not working. So what else do you have?

Yeah. Don't have buckles on your shoes. Yeah. What? I don't get that reference.

I heard Nelson say it one time.

He goes, this looks like I have buckles on my shoes. My response was exactly the same. First, I looked at his shoes. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? I was like, what? Because I'm not a settler. And I was like, son of a bitch. That is actually pretty good.

I could not have challenging. I could not have done the online digital thing.

That's assuming they're telling the truth.

Have you ever catfished anyone? No, because I'm honest. What is your profile picture?

Yes. Up and down Main Street. What is the problem? We're going to be in bald face. He's already lined up. The weather should be great. What are we waiting for? Yeah, maybe I'll do that.

Ween parade. I know that Leah has secretly purchased many outfits for him. I haven't seen. I've seen some of them.

No, I feel like there's a hidden cache somewhere, but she could share that with you and you could put him in an outfit. Perfect. Good idea. Black tie one day, top hat another. Top hat. That would be awesome. I mean, people. He should have a top hat. At breakfast today, you joined us for breakfast. How many people came over? At least a half a dozen. Oh, we love your dog. All right.

Now you're stuck.

I'm doing my best. Let's end it with. Talk about your seminar coming up in Costa Rica.

If you want to, right?

No women though, right? Just you?

I'll put it in the show notes too.

Tamarindo is super cool. How many times have we been there? Six or seven?

Did any join or attempt to join and just change their mind or they just weren't there?

No, you should do it on the sand. And you can push your partner's head underwater if you want.

Yeah, driving people's head underwater. Okay. No, the reason I bring up Tamarindo, it's super family friendly. We've traveled many times down there with people, kids of all different ages. It's easy to get around. Like you said, there's a tourist aspect to it. The flight into, we don't fly into San Jose. Where do we fly into? It's Liberia. Um, you could fly into San Jose.

It's a much longer drive. I would go into Liberia.

It's awesome. I mean, we've been there enough times we can go visit. I mean, we go down to Dan Hart seminar every December. We can go visit him in Chicago anytime, but we go there because it's just such a cool place. And the cause is so awesome.

Catamarans. You can do sad horse rides. Yeah.

It took me a year from the last time she was on to get her back in here. Maybe the next time I can do it inside of six months. There are some things we talked about on the show that are in the show notes. So, yeah, I think we're set. Let's get into this Friday episode. Before we do, give me a moment to pay the bills and we'll be right into it. Today's episode is brought to you by Peak.

You could get bird whistles or cocaine from the same guy. Possibly, yeah. Yeah, they really, the trinket salesmen really have a wide variety of things.

Waterfall.

Cool. What do you want to end it on?

See you again in a year in here.

Right on. Until next time.

Yeah.

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When did you notice the, yeah, it's hard to tell if you're crying, if you do it in the shower. When did you notice the, I don't want to say the explosion of women into Jiu Jitsu. It's definitely, there's a lot more. What word would you use to describe women's participation in Jiu Jitsu?

In Helena?

What's the most successful thing you've seen a gym do to encourage female participants?

Specifically, we're going to be talking about their Puerh tea bundles. There's a lot of people out there, to include myself, that really never drank any tea earlier in life. I didn't like the idea of it. An argument could be made that I have drank and continue to drink far too much coffee, which is... Helpful in the morning and a little bit hard when it's time to go to sleep.

I mean, I started when I was 41.

How about for Vaughn?

My expectation would be maybe he could pick himself up if he fell over.

I don't even know what that would look like. He's such an... decrepit age and close to death.

He would, yes.

But one thing coffee has never done for me is help me with my gut microbiome, my digestion. And it certainly hasn't helped me calm down and relax a little bit. And those are all things that can be a benefit from the Pu-erh tea bundles. You may be asking yourself, what is this tea bundle you speak of? I'm going to read it right off of the website so I don't miss anything important.

Oh, like foot straight into.

Yeah. Goes in the W column.

Yeah. Worry less about how it gets into the W column and just worry about which column it's in.

He can't hear it through the speakers or the microphone. 78 years old. You would let my dad start jujitsu if you wanted to?

I actually think it's unlikely if somebody has not been active at their life that they make it to 78.

That stuff really shakes me because it's real easy to be cavalier when you're at this age. But when stuff like that happens, it really takes you back to just how lucky you are. And a lot of times you just don't acknowledge that every morning. Do you have a will written up? I got to trust.

Do I have a will? No. No. I'm trying to learn how to deal with you. You've been dealing with me my entire fucking life. I set up a lot of my own shame. I got it.

I've got cash. I've already got saved. I'm either giving to you or Casey. And when I go, that money you're going to take to the bar. And we invite all the friends. We'll have a list. All right. And no one gets to leave until that money's exhausted.

Michael, do you have a will?

Yeah, the aging process at this age is, the numbers just don't correlate with me. I just can't imagine 78 years old, you know. It's just the numbers don't make sense. I mean, I talked to an old Marine Corps buddy yesterday. He's 80. And we were talking about it. And I said, how are you doing? He says, the biggest thing that I've had to learn to deal with is just pain. I said, I'm the same way.

I hurt all the time. He says, yeah, I still do the same stuff, which I do as best I can. But it's just that sometimes I can't get out of a chair. Do you start your testosterone? I started to until my daughter yesterday told me where I had to rub it, you know.

It just caught me by surprise, you know. What did you think it was going to be? Well, she always told me it had to be a place where there wasn't any hair. So I thought, you know, I'll put it on the bottom of my foot or something like that. I just don't waste a lot of time thinking about shit like that.

Yeah. But I think it'll help. The energy level is what I'm looking for. I miss doing more things. You're doing pretty good for your age. Yeah, I miss doing more things, you know, with you and your family. It's like this year when you went on a hunting trip and I was supposed to go.

I got really sideways and went way too deep, and I backed out and I shouldn't have because I just wasn't dealing with myself. Because now at this age, you start looking at parts of yourself and you go... And I got to catch myself and say, stop, you know, let's deal with today. Not yesterday. You can't. Yeah. Well, that's kind of where I'm at.

Oh yeah.

I won't do that again. I already told myself that.

I understand.

Yeah, I'll be right with you.

Well, that's one of the things I find myself doing now. I don't care what the pose is, but I do get myself in a position that I'm comfortable.

Well, you know what I feel about what other people think.

I've always thought it pays to advertise, so I mean, you know, just run it out there.

You noticed I wasn't in any of them.

But what's your generation feel about it? You must be content.

You mean you haven't let it loose here in Kalispell?

It's just balance. I'm old. It's just balance.

And a lot of peer pressure at that age too. There is a lot of peer pressure too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think there's so many ways you can interpret alcoholism. I sympathize with your caller's question. I've backed way, way off my alcohol just simply because it affects my body differently. Like gout? Yeah, well, Jesus. But it's just I don't like waking up and— I don't drink a lot, so when I do put the party hat on, I usually charge pretty hard.

But then the next day, and I realize at this age, I don't want days like that. But for especially veterans and what have you.

I think you got to stop, pay attention and sit down and talk with them and look at yourself. You really, and that's the hardest part for so many people is just looking at themselves. Is it, am I really, because we all know, and I personally know, oh yeah, I'm not drinking too much.

And, you know, I'm the kind of guy, if I've had one drink, I said, shit, let's finish the bottle, you know, and a lot of people aren't that way, but...

But what's the class? I mean, I just went to Santa Cruz, again, with another friend I've had for 60 years. And he is an alcoholic, and he knows it. How long has he been, and how long has he known it? 50 years. I mean, you know, Jack Daniels, wine. Did he ever try to stop?

I don't know about that, but a lot of people don't understand that just because you stop drinking doesn't mean you stop being an alcoholic. And that's what I often share with my buddy there, which I mean, which is great. He's an old UCSC rugby player. Jack Otis showed up. Turquoise Dave was there, and we've been drinking together for years. So we talk about this stuff together, recognizing.

And of the four of us, there's a different definition, or not a definition, an application of how we handle our alcohol. But you've got to sit down with the person. You've got to be brave enough to listen to someone who's telling you that. and then talk to yourself and work it out with them. Bottom line is you've got to deal with it yourself.

A lot of people, you know, I had a father that stopped drinking when he was 22, and he was an alcoholic. He was a beast of a man, and he almost killed somebody in a bar fight when he was 22. He stopped drinking, but he had all of the... Habits of a drunk. And it's called a dry drunk. And that's what I'm saying. There's different definitions, different applications.

In many of them, my parents didn't drink. My grandparents didn't drink. Mom's parents made up for that. Yeah, but then on the other flip side, I go to Mom's house, and I didn't really start drinking until, oh, God, I guess I was a junior in high school. And I was always so shy. I mean, believe it or not, I'm a very shy person. But the alcohol brought out another demon in me.

I didn't know that was there. And I couldn't wait to put the party hat on. And you know, my generation, alcohol was...

preached as going to the ill club going to the e-club you know i mean in the military military oh man it was not that different when i was in but you would never find that in doctrine it was the if the river looked flat on top there was that current that was underneath it's one of the biggest disappointments for me i don't know if i've ever talked to you about it of i wish i had been more in control when you were young because i was the guy mom would have a you know a

Gin and grapefruit juice sitting there for me. And it wasn't like I was staggering drunk or anything. I just wish I was a little more balanced with the picture that I showed you. I don't remember. Honestly, it didn't hit my radar. Yeah, well, I'm glad to hear that.

all that beer sitting out well that was you know i think i was 18 at the time he's 18. you know andy's and he's coming home with uh memorial day weekend i think something like that and i got beer stacked out there and she says what's all this beer for i said andy's coming home he's not i said he's 18 at the time yeah i said we're gonna have this conversation and have it once i said your son has earned the right to do whatever the freaking heck he wants i said

As long as they stay here, I don't care. I said it's important that he have a safe place to come, and it's going to be where we are. And God bless her. She understood that. She did not go to the store to refresh, though. Oh, no. I mean, I got some luck last night. I mean, you know, I think I slept by myself for about a week. Yeah.

Yeah, well, it happened to be that weekend he showed up, we also moved. Oh, my God.

Oh, but no, yeah, that's a tough thing, you know. I've seen so many friends in the rugby community. It's such a male-dominated thing. I mean, we had songs. We traveled together. Yeah, the classic saying, what goes on tour stays on tour. But we had so damn much fun. I mean, it was fun about a year and a half before Mom died when we went on a six-week tour of France. Yeah.

and she was the matriarch of this tour i mean she was running a book she put some money out there and got made some interest but they would come to her i mean there was half a dozen gals traveling but when we got there we found out that cognac was cheaper than the beer is that a whiskey yeah it's a i've only ever i've never i don't think i've ever you know i don't know how we qualify it's offered with dessert usually is it a sweeter drink

Yeah, but it's really high powered. So I just told the boys.

Yeah. I said, boys. How the fuck do you drink Cognac?

Oh, well, now we know where to start. Yeah. Okay. But, yeah, it's just the real – I mean, I've had friends, guys that have played for me that I've taken to rehab more than once. Be there 30 days. I go pick them up, and before I could get them home, they'd have me stop at a liquor store.

And you go all the way to the line like this gentleman that commented, you know, I do this, I do – my feeling is if you're taking care of business, you're taking care of your family – It takes a couple pops. I mean, there was years I needed a couple pops to sleep. Yeah, but I think you need to ask why.

Exactly. Talk about it.

It's like sleep apnea, you know?

Well, it's one thing for him to say he's sleeping like a baby. What's his wife's impression of that? Your diagnostic stuff is very valid. I completely agree with it. But am I really sleeping this good? Am I still tossing and turning? Yeah. No, I, that's a tough one. Alcoholism. I mean, we talk about drug abuse and you've got nicotine and alcohol that are advertised on every airwave and magazine.

And I mean, if we just look at the amount of people that die every day from, you know, those two right there, it's, it's, it's a shocker.

I don't know what that means. Oh, do I believe any of those things?

No. Okay.

I always ask the flat people, well, when we have a... The flat people? They believe the world's flat.

So I just say, what the hell do you see when you see an eclipse? I mean, there it is. There's the roundness of the earth. That's the reflection. Yeah, but it's a two-dimension. But it's not like this. It's like this. It's half of a ball or a third of a ball. Or it gets down to the very end.

It might be your theory, but theory and seeing are two different things. They would argue with that on that point. Well, I understand because I used to go pillar to post with Debbie Sanchez. He was, you know, I'm going. No, he wasn't. Yeah. What was his favorite theory?

He had two, a flat earther and all the airplanes up were flying, were putting out, you know. Chemtrails.

No, he was very legitimate about things. He said, no, this is it. I mean, that was just a trail of a lot of different things. And then chemtrails. He was convinced.

You know, I honestly can't definitively remember. I was just so taken back. He says, yo, look at them up there. They're doing this and this and this. And I'm... I just... I'd never been exposed to something like that. I've read about it. I've heard about it. I just say, look at the freaking... You know, the yeah, those are the people that says, you know, we never went to the moon.

You know, all of that, you know, is all done in a studio. My generation, when that was happening in the 60s, so much of everything was really unsophisticated. You know, seeing 1968, seeing him land on the moon and. And I was just awed by it all.

Oh, I don't doubt it at all.

I don't doubt it at all. You know, it's just not only were we in a race economically, but we were in a race militarily. I mean, they had developed their inner whatever missiles you call those. ICBMs. ICMs and stuff like that. ICBM. ICBM. Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. And we were way behind them. And that really was a whole part of our security system.

And it was a race with many things that was going on. So did they fudge a little bit? Why not?

So what was the one now about JFK? See, that's my wheelhouse. That's my age. I was sitting in an English... The agency was involved in it? Yeah. All right. Someone was. And to me, the big reason... It's very clear that he did not act completely by himself. There's more than one shooter is the big thing. Oh, there's no... How do you have the shooter... And the back of his head goes this way.

That was definitely a round from the front.

Oh, I know.

You know, my feeling on all of that was is that it probably had something to do with those agencies. But why were those agents—they were being pushed— I believe so hard by the extreme right, which was even more bizarre than it is today, because Kennedy had just sent our representatives to Vietnam to see what we were doing there, and we even had any business being there. Could we change it?

And they came back and Told him, no, we have no. And so, quote unquote, the military industrial complex. I saw this as a gold mine and he was gone.

I'm looking at danger close now. Come on, win it, baby. Give it to me. I need it.

I think more things from a humanity standpoint he would have went after. Civil rights he created. Aid around the world he created. Youth programs to go out and work in different parts of the world. He had really a visionary mind for what we needed to do to make a footprint, a print out there that... The rest of the world will watch us and want to emulate us. He was very, very successful at that.

I mean, his whole thing is, ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for your country? That was his whole platform. Is that how he got the women to line up to come to visit him? You know, we talk about Trump. I mean, this guy had the CIA bringing the ladies in the back door.

I don't know. I didn't have enough energy. But, I mean, what most people don't realize, he was spun out all the time on amphetamine. He... Really? Yeah, after World War II. And when his PT boat got ran over by a Japanese destroyer and he saved his crewmates, it almost broke his back. The back pain that he—that's why he was always in a rocking chair.

He was—it was just, you know, what you did to keep people going. And the schedule that he was at— I mean, again, you look at his dad. He was a fucking mobster. They were bootleggers, and they basically bought their way into that election. It was—I can remember sitting in English class, and the question of the day was, can he— Govern the United States and be a Catholic.

You know, have a higher power that's dictated to by the Pope and still be a definitive person as a political. Interesting. Yeah. Those years right there were so. I mean, it's why I look at a lot of the stuff that happens today. And, you know, I just I just so now prefer not to watch almost all of it.

Do you have anybody, your generation, do you have anybody that you trust in the government? No. Not a single person?

That's how far we've come from you to me.

Because a lot of where this comes from, I understand. is before Vietnam and after Vietnam, the conflicts that we were in and basically created ourself were completely hidden from the public. And all of that is coming out now, and they can go. So I understand and respect their fear and disrespect. How do we fix it? That's the question of the day. What do you think of the Doge stuff?

I don't even understand that.

Well, my question with all of that is, I mean, I have no... You're welcome.

I'm in complete agreement that the government is completely bloated. It needs to be cut. But is there any guideline? What's the criteria? I mean, my theory has been you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I mean, just the numbers they were talking about today of... What if both the baby and the bathwater are tainted? That's got to be evaluated each time. I understand.

Yeah, your point's very valid. Just look at us here, the Forest Service. They fired everybody. They did not fire everybody.

I'm just clarifying. You're privy, obviously, to much more clarity than I am. But my whole thing is, yeah, if we got—but what is the criteria? Is there any? Are we just winging this?

You've been shamed. When have I been shamed? I don't know. You told Connor. You do the same thing I used to do to my dad. I gave him a ration of shit. I love it. I would probably wonder why if you didn't do what you did. You love it?

Never has been.

I rubber stamp everything you said.

It all gets back to honesty. You know, I don't have any problem. It's just be honest to us. Tell us, you know. How it's working, what it's the end result going to be.

It's called greed.

We don't have a two party system anymore. We have a one party system and it's about greed.

All frigging day.

Yeah, it's just like I— What do they have, three times as many lobbyists now in Washington than we have Congress members? Do they really? Is that a true stat? That might be a little extreme. It might actually be not extreme enough. You go to K Street, I think it is, in Washington.

I mean, you just look at the time that our politicians go out of the White House, because they can't do it there, and go to phone banks just to raise money. It's all about money. It's all about this.

Yeah, I think you're correct. Yeah. I mean, we have lost so much. I mean, you just look at the news organizations, and I don't care whether they're MSNBC, CBS, or Fox, or any of them. None of them anymore really give you the news. It's opinions. No.

The story, I mean, what was really an eye-opener for me was driving across from here to California, out in the middle of podunk nowhere, where there was nothing but extreme right-wing news. And I listened to them forever. What were they talking about? Oh, conspiracy theories. Were you like AM radio in it? Yeah. Yeah, because... Dangerous. It's a dangerous game.

One guy hung up because I told him I couldn't understand him and I had to go to find another one. I said, do you have a fucking banana in your mouth or can I just not understand you?

Well, I put on FM and I got tired of listening to Hispanic music, you know, or... Did you try changing the channel? Oh, I did. I would scan, you know. But it's, you know, it's... Every news link now, it's a propaganda. Oh, it's all. They're all. You know, my wife loves MM, however you say it. And I tell her, I said, we're watching the Fox News of the left. Yeah. You know? It's no different.

And I said, they're just freaking opinions. They're out selling product. I mean, you look at the shit Disney's doing now. I mean, they're in and out of hot water. Yeah. Yeah, it's, you know, you're really fascinated when you graciously asked me to come on here because I started thinking about, and I didn't realize how many... Well, let's not forget you're a supporter of Disney. At Disney?

Why is that? Oh, with Hulu? There you go. Yeah, yeah. You're directly supporting their initiatives. But it's the only network I get that gives me the news. But, yeah, it was... Listening to that news, I mean, I thought Rush Limbaugh was out there when he was very popular. I mean, these guys, you can just see them spitting and blowing snot bubbles. Have you ever tuned in to Alex Jones?

Oh, I'd love to listen to him. Yeah, he would. How about Bannon? Holy Jesus, these guys are out there. Do you think that they think they're out there? Or do they think that we're out there? I think it's both. I think it's both. I mean, so much of what's going on today. It's gone all the way back to the Tea Party when they started. And what was his name? Who was the leader of it? I forget.

But he shut the government down. He lost his job. Gingrich. Gingrich was his name. Gingrich? Yeah. And these, I mean, you look at the Cheneys and the Rumsfeld. They were all from this very, I've read a good deal of Project 2025. That scares the holy dog shit out of me. Where'd you find it? It was online. I'm shocked you were able to find it, if I'm being honest.

Yeah, well, I've got six hours I put into it.

I just check in. I said Project 2025. Okay. Okay.

Well, you know, it was quite a journey into... Oh, here we go. Into... Because, you know, I probably should pay more attention to stuff, but I didn't. I'm going to change... Hold on.

Yeah, Safari, that's it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you.

I just check in and I look for... So, I mean, historically, I can look back and see where a lot of these steps have come from. Yeah, I mean, it's... I don't know how we get out of this. I do not know how we fix this. It's so passionate and it's I was talking to my old Marine Corps buddy yesterday, and he says, you know, I've been putting in to Social Security for 68 years.

He says, they want to cut my Social Security. I just said, excuse me, just give me my money back. I put it in there since then. You know, just give it all back to me. It's mine. You don't have to give me the, I just want what I put in the system. You can have the rest of it. Yeah, it's fascinating. I have conversations with a range of people, people my age that I go, oh, my God, you know.

What tea have you been drinking? And then I have people that I align myself. Do you remember it being like that early in your life? No. Before I had any capability of really recognize it is when we went through the McCarthy years after Korea. And McCarthy was a congressman that it was a witch hunt to label everybody communist to get them run out of the country.

And he was finally Nazis are the new buzzword of the day. Well, boy, I mean, if you read a lot about Hitler and how he did stuff, the playbook doesn't vary very much. You're saying the playbook is similar? Yeah.

I don't want to call people Nazis. I'm not saying that. It's a line of thought. You know, when you have the president of the United States who is attempting to make sure that any attorney... that supported or defended Trump or the people. You mean Biden? Biden, excuse me, yeah. Make sure that their firms can no longer work for the government.

Yeah, okay. I'm not saying there's a lot I don't understand about it, but I just... Because I'm curious, and having my browser now... Yeah, there's some historical precedence that... And what you've got to, when you do this, you can't just read one site. I mean, you've got to look at three or four of them, because... I mean, some of them are just, and it's an agenda.

Some of them are just, here's the bare information. Make your own conclusions. Are you searching for any of this information on your phone? No.

Streaming, you know, what my phone bill is. I know. What is streaming?

Oh, yeah.

She says, why are they there? I said, I didn't feel like calling them back.

Are you? No, I want to be better alert, better be able to be more responsive.

No, it doesn't matter what you're doing.

Hey, that's fine. Your mom wanted one of those with me. She probably had good reason for that. You know, I want to say something to you. I was so... thrilled and I was so proud of you for the Instagram that you put on with you and your mom.

I know for a fact you don't have an Instagram page. I don't know how I get half, almost anything I get. I didn't. Connor said, look, have you seen your, and I go, what's that?

But I must compliment you that I thought it was very touching and I was glad to see it. I thought it was really, it was great. Seeing you in that bald head to graduate from high school. I saw the haircut I had. I know.

See, here's what I'm talking about. You're shaming me.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. But I was. And I know it's not an easy issue for you. But to seeing you put it out there and seeing a picture, two pictures with you and your mom. It's not difficult. It was. Well, maybe I used the wrong word, but it was very touching for me.

was not possible at that time during that time there's just no way there's no way yeah and there's no and i and i you know that was a horrible part for me as knowing that i mean just coming from overseas i mean literally in 24 hours and just all kinds of shit that was going on it was yeah that was god you think the country will survive the next four years Yes. If you look at it.

I am a neutral third party.

I don't know what it's going to look like. I think that's okay. Yeah, I do too. The checks and balances are not working perfectly, but they are working. That's what I said when Trump and I told everybody. I said, the Democrats got exactly what they deserved. They deserved it sooner. You know, we need somebody to take the government apart.

Yeah. I agree 100% with you. And I tell my older friends that exactly. Because so many of them are just so hard out there to the left. And I'm going... You're missing the bigger picture.

And why?

Yeah, I really... Yeah, libertarians, I love them. They even protest to a stop sign. They're great. I love them. Yeah, they're great. But addressing your point, yeah, there's changes that have to be made, and on both sides.

I want to see our election procedures stop where you get, everyone gets the same budget. You've got two weeks to get it done. And that might not be, but I want to see a step back more to what the English do in Europe. Powdered wigs? Yes. Hey, I like that. Tight silk pants. Oh, baby. Yeah. Buckle shoes. I'm getting excited.

But my whole thing was as long as we follow the Constitution, the checks and balance systems, and there is no one person above the law, we'll survive anything. But it's being pushed, and it right now probably needs to be pushed to recenter some of that stuff. Do I think we will survive? Yeah, I just don't know in what form. Are you hopeful, Michael, when you and your friends get together?

You just ought to come out and be able to play on both sides of the plate. That's okay.

Go in the dugout and grab whatever bat you want.

Very good point. That's what's missing from our country. From some people. Yeah. We can't talk. We can't agree to disagree and find some common ground.

People can't sit down at a table to have a Christmas dinner without throwing the drumstick at somebody.

But even as radical as either side can be, we still have to have some center ground. And that's what has left is the ability for the two parties to come and be able to negotiate. They are so in their own camps, both extreme... And I've never seen anything like this. You know, like standing up, getting thrown out, you know, making a disparaging remark about the president and whatever.

I didn't even know they had such a thing as a black box. What the hell's a black box? Why were you looking at it is the question. She wanted the serial number off of it. She was telling me the problem was the black box wasn't working properly, and I had to find... We had some turd words for that conversation. You know what... It was good entertainment.

It does nothing. It makes it look so bad. And you talk about issues. I mean, let's look at the alphabet soup, sexual shit and the transgender. What are they doing? Not even 1% of the issue, and so much of it rolls off of that, you know? Yeah.

Thankfully, I'm glad to see that more and more athletic divisions or leagues or what have you are just saying, if you're a guy, you're not going to compete against the gals. Why do we even need to discuss that?

But it can become, at the beginning and end, of discussions with people. And we have so many other things that are, yeah.

When I was your age? You couldn't go out into the community and declare that you were a homosexual.

What would happen if you did? Oh, the discrimination, being shunned. Like I told you, Tony Anderson, basically my brother, his older brother was gay. I didn't even know what the word meant. I'd go over to his house, and they were in the farmer's grange where Dad dances. I'd go over there in the morning. He'd be in his mom's dress dancing and what have you, just dancing.

He went in the military, tried to change who he was. He got married to try to change who he was. And then he killed himself because he could not fit in. I hope we're not in that situation today. But it's like I used to tell my rugby players, you're fighting the wrong frigging war here. It doesn't matter what your pronoun is. It's how you treat people.

Why are we getting hung up on, no, I'm not going to call you a guy anymore. know it just that's not why we're here yeah it was some of the stuff i went through later on in life i just kind of really stopped me in my tracks and i'm glad it did you know it's uh but like you said i do believe we'll survive it i do not know what i don't i told somebody the other day i don't think i'll see really see

What we're going to settle at in my lifetime. It's going to take years to... I don't know what the hell's going to go on with China or Russia or these places. It took years to get to this point. It's reasonable to assume it'll take years to get out. That was my point. I just don't think this is going to be settled in my lifetime. I worry for my grandchildren desperately.

But I have enough faith in their family that whatever would come across, we'll figure a way of negotiating it. One of the biggest issues I see is the disparity between those that have and those that don't. Working people trying to find a place to buy a home. That's scary for me. It was a whole different thing when I was growing up. We can talk about that at a different time.

Hey, yeah, I hear you got a new truck.

What truck are you looking at?

Good for you.

Right back to the Toyota. Yeah.

It's like going to the senior center, you know. You're not the only one there painting the rocks. What did you learn from yesterday and your journey into technology? Well, I learned what my, what do you call that place over there? Spectrum bill is. I learned where the billing is for my servers for the streaming for the television. The servers? Yeah, well, whatever they are.

I had mine for 23 years, you know?

Yeah. Yeah, well, good for you.

And they're going to do nothing but get more expensive.

Yeah, that's the... As mine depreciates.

What do they want for that thing?

Well, as we get further into this, I'll be able to bring out.

Well, when we bought the one that I lived in for 23, 24 years, I think we bought it for $260,000 and bought it with nothing down.

No, I don't. But when I did sell it, because I kept using it as a checking account, and the last interest rate I had was below three.

That's the reason I let it build up. I'd take $100,000 out, and the payment didn't change anything. I said, why not?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hell, I didn't even know what Safari was.

Yep.

I'm just going in for a cell phone now. What the fuck? I thought I was going to get a new network system and everything else.

I want this, and how much is it going to cost me?

I want a new cell phone that they've already offered me. Actually offered me two. I said, fine. What's it going to cost me a month to match the services I have now?

Oh, yeah, exactly. I don't want to lose that. I'd be screwed. I'd never remember another one.

Yeah. Shame. There's the shame thing.

No.

No.

I got a good internet.

Yes, that's all. That's all I want. I mean, I can be nasty with salespeople. Let's not take it that far.

No, I don't mean I get like that, but I'm just going, do you really want to sell me something here, asshole? Let's get it done, you know? I got a $100 bill. I don't want to pay any more than that in a month.

I kind of wandered through this stuff. I found out that Clear had just charged me $308 for something I never had bought. How did that happen? I've yet to have them give me an answer. Do you know what Clear is? Yeah, that's when you go to the airport and they look through the thing, they identify your eyeball, and they let you in early. So, I mean, it was crazy. I said, $308? Yeah.

Actually, I use two. Any closing thoughts, gentlemen? No, I appreciate being invited to this. It's better perspective than just me. No, and I want to get Michael more involved in this. It's really important that... Careful what you ask for. Well, I understand. It's a little light in the shoes, so we'll move on.

Married with children?

You're going to go to Maine?

Are you going to go to an area where there's a greater... Dating pool? Yeah, are you actually just going to move just so there's more chicks? No.

Well, you will get up in five years and still be doing it. You've got to make yourself some goals.

Oh, yeah. They're going to be gone.

Whether or not you and I will be alive, different story, but I think they'll be. I'll be alive because they'll still want something. I'm on. We're out there. I get a text from Julia. Where? Oh, where? We're on a trip somewhere. Yeah. Grampy, when can we go get the mask? Yeah. Her welding mask. Yeah, yeah. And I text her. I said, sweetie, I'm sorry. We're out of state. I said, I'm still game.

You know, let's sit down and talk about it. I want to see what you're, you know, exactly where you want to go with this. But I said, yeah, listen, I'm still in. No problem. She was welding today. Yeah.

What happens when she leaves the phone somewhere and just goes with somebody else?

It's fun watching these guys, the salesmen, and they say, can I see your new phone? I said, sure. I bring this out and they go, what the shit is this? So I think it's a five.

Yeah. But I've learned I only got to hit the button twice and I don't need to put the password in. There you go. Jesus.

I'm a student of watching. Oh, my God. What's the matter?

All right.

Here's what happens now. It's impressive. I'll get up in the morning. If I haven't plugged in at night, it'll be, oh, I'm plugging in at night, and it'll be completely charged. I'll unplug it, set it down, and it goes right back to red. So I plug it in again, and then it goes all the way back to charge again. That's when I started realizing.

That's exactly what I was going to say, you know. No.

We'll do it again. All right.

Well, it actually went a little farther than that, but, you know, I was able to cancel it because I asked Casey. I said, do you have a service that allows you? And she says, yeah, it costs me $100, and it's much better than Clear. And I said, good, I'll get the information from you.

Well, we're actually starting to plan a trip to Spain.

Probably next year.

There again. That's nice. There again, I'm being shamed. I mean, there it is, audience. I mean. I'm just. This is the tip.

Well, I got to tell you, his wife is sitting there.

I got to tell you, I got to tell you, I had a dream last night and you were in it. Oh, great. And it's kind of spurs off the conversation you talked about possibly, you know, in a year or so buying a house, I'm going, Jesus, I wonder if we could buy one with a granny unit, you know, and, uh, Instead of paying rent here, I'll just give him three or four grand a month.

Casey and I have already talked about that.

I actually think I'm pretty damn sharp for my age.

Okay.

I even had to get that little flashlight out that you gave me, that powerful one. Okay. Yeah, that worked really well. So I get... It was... It was an exercise. Why didn't you just call me? I'm trying not to get so upset with phone calls and use language that a lot of people find inappropriate. But, so... You know me, my favorite saying is, just go fuck yourself. And they don't like that.

It's broad usage.

But it was through the process I learned a lot about my billing, how the system works with the one service here. I just needed a new phone. I found out what they were charging me every month in California. Going to California, that was a whole nother trip. Jesus. Anyway, why didn't you just call me? I didn't want to be, what did he say it was called?

I didn't want to be shamed again.

I had nothing else to do. I mean, that was kind of the bottom line. That's a fucking true story. I had a whole list of things there. I'm sitting in my sweats and I'm going, oh, this is going to be a while.

And once you brought it up on the phone to me, I said, oh, okay, I got it. Yeah, you know, because...

But see, I didn't know that. All my others, my Spectrum, not my Spectrum, Netflix, Prime, all of those were working fine. And all of a sudden I'd go to Hulu and a pinwheel would come up and just spin. I had no idea that you were on the account until they said, you know, who's Andrew Stumpf? And I said, that's my son. We need that password. That's five hours into it.

Well, I usually don't do well with those conversations. I did pretty good yesterday.

Yeah. No, I, it was, it was.

Poor Buster's sitting there on his bed watching me, just fixated by what's going on, you know.

25.

Yes.

I just never, yeah. I thought it was relevant at the time, but like a lot of things, like a lot of balloons I put out turned into trash right away, but I don't care. You know, it's so much of life now is a comedy, you know, and Thank God I'm still part of it.

Yeah. Well, that's neat. I feel very honored to be able to come. Are you the oldest member of the family now? I'm the patriarch, believe it or not. I carry the scepter.

Yeah, you know, and I realized that about six months ago. And I don't know what significance it has to do about anything. You don't come and kiss the ring or any of that. But it just... It really identified for me my age and how many of my family that I love dearly that are now gone. Yeah, it was a real shock for me.

There's a lot of emotions to that. I've got one or two now that are on the edge of checking out. I feel privileged to have had as long to spend with... A lot of people. I talked to Weasel today for our fishing trip in July. And I mean, him and I have been friends for, God, 60 years. And I have a lot of friends like that.

But losing them, especially rugby players, what is really shocking for me now is the amount of rugby players that I coached when they were Michael's age that are now dying. What are they dying of? I just had a very close friend. He's diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease. Is that a genetic thing? No, it's what do you call it, MS? MS. Multiple sclerosis. Yeah.

And I made time to have a lunch with him. Two of my old rugby friends, we got together with him. And losing people like that, I mean, obviously I've lost a lot of friends to alcoholism and stupidity. But another hard one was my buddy Tommy Salem, who played for me a few years. His 21-year-old son was killed in a car accident about six months ago.