Michael Stumpf

Thankfully, I'm glad to see that more and more athletic divisions or leagues or what have you are just saying, if you're a guy, you're not going to compete against the gals. Why do we even need to discuss that?

Thankfully, I'm glad to see that more and more athletic divisions or leagues or what have you are just saying, if you're a guy, you're not going to compete against the gals. Why do we even need to discuss that?

Thankfully, I'm glad to see that more and more athletic divisions or leagues or what have you are just saying, if you're a guy, you're not going to compete against the gals. Why do we even need to discuss that?

But it can become, at the beginning and end, of discussions with people. And we have so many other things that are, yeah.

But it can become, at the beginning and end, of discussions with people. And we have so many other things that are, yeah.

But it can become, at the beginning and end, of discussions with people. And we have so many other things that are, yeah.

When I was your age? You couldn't go out into the community and declare that you were a homosexual.

When I was your age? You couldn't go out into the community and declare that you were a homosexual.

When I was your age? You couldn't go out into the community and declare that you were a homosexual.

What would happen if you did? Oh, the discrimination, being shunned. Like I told you, Tony Anderson, basically my brother, his older brother was gay. I didn't even know what the word meant. I'd go over to his house, and they were in the farmer's grange where Dad dances. I'd go over there in the morning. He'd be in his mom's dress dancing and what have you, just dancing.

What would happen if you did? Oh, the discrimination, being shunned. Like I told you, Tony Anderson, basically my brother, his older brother was gay. I didn't even know what the word meant. I'd go over to his house, and they were in the farmer's grange where Dad dances. I'd go over there in the morning. He'd be in his mom's dress dancing and what have you, just dancing.

What would happen if you did? Oh, the discrimination, being shunned. Like I told you, Tony Anderson, basically my brother, his older brother was gay. I didn't even know what the word meant. I'd go over to his house, and they were in the farmer's grange where Dad dances. I'd go over there in the morning. He'd be in his mom's dress dancing and what have you, just dancing.

He went in the military, tried to change who he was. He got married to try to change who he was. And then he killed himself because he could not fit in. I hope we're not in that situation today. But it's like I used to tell my rugby players, you're fighting the wrong frigging war here. It doesn't matter what your pronoun is. It's how you treat people.

He went in the military, tried to change who he was. He got married to try to change who he was. And then he killed himself because he could not fit in. I hope we're not in that situation today. But it's like I used to tell my rugby players, you're fighting the wrong frigging war here. It doesn't matter what your pronoun is. It's how you treat people.

He went in the military, tried to change who he was. He got married to try to change who he was. And then he killed himself because he could not fit in. I hope we're not in that situation today. But it's like I used to tell my rugby players, you're fighting the wrong frigging war here. It doesn't matter what your pronoun is. It's how you treat people.

Why are we getting hung up on, no, I'm not going to call you a guy anymore. know it just that's not why we're here yeah it was some of the stuff i went through later on in life i just kind of really stopped me in my tracks and i'm glad it did you know it's uh but like you said i do believe we'll survive it i do not know what i don't i told somebody the other day i don't think i'll see really see

Why are we getting hung up on, no, I'm not going to call you a guy anymore. know it just that's not why we're here yeah it was some of the stuff i went through later on in life i just kind of really stopped me in my tracks and i'm glad it did you know it's uh but like you said i do believe we'll survive it i do not know what i don't i told somebody the other day i don't think i'll see really see

Why are we getting hung up on, no, I'm not going to call you a guy anymore. know it just that's not why we're here yeah it was some of the stuff i went through later on in life i just kind of really stopped me in my tracks and i'm glad it did you know it's uh but like you said i do believe we'll survive it i do not know what i don't i told somebody the other day i don't think i'll see really see

What we're going to settle at in my lifetime. It's going to take years to... I don't know what the hell's going to go on with China or Russia or these places. It took years to get to this point. It's reasonable to assume it'll take years to get out. That was my point. I just don't think this is going to be settled in my lifetime. I worry for my grandchildren desperately.

What we're going to settle at in my lifetime. It's going to take years to... I don't know what the hell's going to go on with China or Russia or these places. It took years to get to this point. It's reasonable to assume it'll take years to get out. That was my point. I just don't think this is going to be settled in my lifetime. I worry for my grandchildren desperately.