Michael Terpin

And I was a speaker at that conference.

David Bailey, who's a friend of mine since the early days, brilliant entrepreneur.

And he bought Bitcoin Magazine.

you know, which was originally owned by Vitalik and a few other people.

And they were just kind of doing other things that wouldn't run anymore.

And he was running, you know, a print magazine called Why Bitcoin that was sort of like for newbies.

And he comes from a family of publishers, so he knows that industry.

But he basically went and, you know, really when he bought it, I think he was trying to like,

make it into like a shiny, glossy Bitcoin magazine.

And then he realized, whoa, the website is really where it's at.

And he's just done an amazing job of growing the conference.

And, you know, Bitcoin conference now, you know, it's like 25, 30,000 people.

And of course, last year, like all great conferences, they have to move to Vegas.

Yeah.

Right.

When you get to the certain size, you can't go anywhere else.

They've done a lot of things in the Bitcoin space.

They also started a Bitcoin mining company called American Bitcoin.

They started a stable coin.

I mean, the family is like all over the asset class.