Michael Truell

And there was sort of a mirror situation with this, with some of the large language model providers, and also this is speculation, but some of these APIs used to offer easy access to log probabilities for all the tokens that they're generating, and also log probabilities for the prompt tokens. And then some of these APIs took those away. And again, complete speculation, but...

And there was sort of a mirror situation with this, with some of the large language model providers, and also this is speculation, but some of these APIs used to offer easy access to log probabilities for all the tokens that they're generating, and also log probabilities for the prompt tokens. And then some of these APIs took those away. And again, complete speculation, but...

And there was sort of a mirror situation with this, with some of the large language model providers, and also this is speculation, but some of these APIs used to offer easy access to log probabilities for all the tokens that they're generating, and also log probabilities for the prompt tokens. And then some of these APIs took those away. And again, complete speculation, but...

One of the thoughts is that the reason those were taken away is if you have access log probabilities, similar to this hidden train of thought, that can give you even more information to try and distill these capabilities out of the APIs, out of these biggest models, into models you control. As an asterisk on also the previous discussion about us integrating O1.

One of the thoughts is that the reason those were taken away is if you have access log probabilities, similar to this hidden train of thought, that can give you even more information to try and distill these capabilities out of the APIs, out of these biggest models, into models you control. As an asterisk on also the previous discussion about us integrating O1.

One of the thoughts is that the reason those were taken away is if you have access log probabilities, similar to this hidden train of thought, that can give you even more information to try and distill these capabilities out of the APIs, out of these biggest models, into models you control. As an asterisk on also the previous discussion about us integrating O1.

I think that we're still learning how to use this model. So we made O1 available in Cursor because when we got the model, we were really interested in trying it out. I think a lot of programmers are going to be interested in trying it out. But O1 is not part of the default cursor experience in any way yet.

I think that we're still learning how to use this model. So we made O1 available in Cursor because when we got the model, we were really interested in trying it out. I think a lot of programmers are going to be interested in trying it out. But O1 is not part of the default cursor experience in any way yet.

I think that we're still learning how to use this model. So we made O1 available in Cursor because when we got the model, we were really interested in trying it out. I think a lot of programmers are going to be interested in trying it out. But O1 is not part of the default cursor experience in any way yet.

And we still haven't found a way to yet integrate it into the editor in a way that we reach for sort of every hour, maybe even every day. And so I think the jury's still out on how to use the model. And we haven't seen examples yet of people releasing things where... It seems really clear, like, oh, that's like now the use case.

And we still haven't found a way to yet integrate it into the editor in a way that we reach for sort of every hour, maybe even every day. And so I think the jury's still out on how to use the model. And we haven't seen examples yet of people releasing things where... It seems really clear, like, oh, that's like now the use case.

And we still haven't found a way to yet integrate it into the editor in a way that we reach for sort of every hour, maybe even every day. And so I think the jury's still out on how to use the model. And we haven't seen examples yet of people releasing things where... It seems really clear, like, oh, that's like now the use case.

The obvious one to turn to is maybe this can make it easier for you to have these background things running, right? To have these models in loops, to have these models be agentic. But we're still discovering.

The obvious one to turn to is maybe this can make it easier for you to have these background things running, right? To have these models in loops, to have these models be agentic. But we're still discovering.

The obvious one to turn to is maybe this can make it easier for you to have these background things running, right? To have these models in loops, to have these models be agentic. But we're still discovering.

So it's a time to shut down cursor. I think this space is a little bit different from past software spaces over the 2010s, where I think that the ceiling here is really, really, really incredibly high. And so I think that the best product in three to four years will just be so much more useful than the best product today.

So it's a time to shut down cursor. I think this space is a little bit different from past software spaces over the 2010s, where I think that the ceiling here is really, really, really incredibly high. And so I think that the best product in three to four years will just be so much more useful than the best product today.

So it's a time to shut down cursor. I think this space is a little bit different from past software spaces over the 2010s, where I think that the ceiling here is really, really, really incredibly high. And so I think that the best product in three to four years will just be so much more useful than the best product today.

And you can wax poetic about moats this and brand that, and this is our advantage. But I think in the end, just if you don't have, if you stop innovating on the product, you will lose. And that's also great for startups. That's great for people trying to enter this market because it means you have an opportunity to win against people who have lots of users already.

And you can wax poetic about moats this and brand that, and this is our advantage. But I think in the end, just if you don't have, if you stop innovating on the product, you will lose. And that's also great for startups. That's great for people trying to enter this market because it means you have an opportunity to win against people who have lots of users already.