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Michelle Hackman

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WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

They have this address on file with the government.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

We know who they are.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

We know where they live.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

So we're going to go try to get them.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

Now what's happening more and more is ICE officers is really being driven by the pressure that they're under to arrest lots of people.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

And so what we're seeing is they're actually using basic profiling tactics to see if they can't find immigrants a little bit more quickly.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

So there are two steps to making an arrest.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

You need to have reasonable suspicion to stop someone and question them.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

But then you need to have what's called probable cause to actually take them into your custody.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

You can't reasonably suspect that someone's in the country illegally just because they're Hispanic.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

But what the Supreme Court has said recently is that you can actually take a number of those profiling factors.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

Let's say you're Hispanic and you look terrified when you see the ICE officer.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

That suddenly now does rise to the level of reasonable suspicion to then stop someone and say, OK, do you have proof of your citizenship?

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

Yeah, this is a huge deal.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

Typically in the past, you would need the sign-off of a judge who sort of independently evaluated the evidence and decided that level of force was needed.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

But ICE has just decided we need to be making more arrests.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

We're going to disregard that.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

And we're going to argue that this administrative warrant that ICE itself produces is enough to force down someone's door.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

break in and arrest them.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

ICE is moving quickly to try to deport people as fast as they can, because once someone is out of the country, it's harder to force ICE to bring them back.