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Michelle Hackman

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WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

citizens being detained and arrested by ICE wrongfully.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

There is going to be litigation around this question of, are you actually violating people's constitutional rights when you forcibly enter their homes if you don't have a warrant signed by a judge?

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

Yeah, it's a really good question.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

And it's one, legally speaking, ICE has several tools.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

So an officer without a warrant can enter a public part of a business.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

Let's use a restaurant as an example.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

They can walk into the front door of a restaurant just the way you and I can.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

Where ICE has had some problems is the officer will say, okay, let me go back to your kitchen and interview your employees.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

That's when a restaurant owner can say, I'm sorry, no, that's private property.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

You can't go there.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

But if ICE shows up with a warrant or if ICE is doing an employer inspection to say, I need to see the paperwork of your employees to see if they're working here legally or

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

The private business has to comply with that sort of law enforcement action.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

The other thing I would add is that they're beyond what's legal.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

A lot of these places are facing really public pressure.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

For example, Hilton a few weeks ago had a hotel in Minneapolis refuse ICE officers to stay at their hotel.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

And Hilton got so much blowback.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

As long as you're an observer, you're free to do whatever you want.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

You are legally allowed to record that interaction.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

As long as you don't intervene in the interaction, you are OK.

WSJ What’s News
ICE’s Expanding Authority Under Trump

I don't think it's going to be sort of at the same level as Minneapolis, partially because there are fewer officers and they're targeting the entire state.