Michelle Hackman

And, you know, we're just, you know, trying to make this case and do it peacefully and hopefully, you know, get ICE out of town.

Yeah, I mean, I think as long as it goes on, I don't think that they're going to be deterred.

I mean, you know, ICE has ramped up its tactics.

And, you know, there are people who follow their vehicles around in cars.

And, you know, we're hearing reports of those people getting boxed in by ICE, their windows broken, people dragged away.

to jail or to the, you know, federal Whipple Center where that's where they would take ICE detainees, but they're also taking, you know, people now who are protesters.

And I think that they're more determined than ever at this point, even though, you know, it's clear what the consequence can be when they cross ICE in the wrong way.

No, I didn't see any activity at the places I was going.

I mean, you know, they're not here to police the demonstrators, but they're being followed around when they're trying to make their apprehensions, and that's where these clashes tend to happen.

It definitely looks that way.

You know, Caroline Levitt spoke from the podium today and laid out all these conditions that they want Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota to meet in order for them to draw down the federal immigration presence in Minneapolis.

But the conditions are a little wishy-washy.

One of them is that they want more state cooperation on immigration enforcement, specifically for state prisons to turn over citizens.

Immigrants in the country illegally who are in their jails and prisons serving criminal sentences.

The Minnesota government has actually already been doing that.

And so that's one of those things where you can sort of call an easy win.

It looks to me as though the administration is looking for a way to de-escalate the situation, but not look like it's a total retreat with your tail between your legs.

It points, again, strongly in the direction of the idea that this administration is looking to de-escalate.

Tom Homan has long been an advocate for focusing ICE primarily on going after criminals.

And that has been an idea that hasn't been so popular inside the administration.