Michelle Hackman

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509 appearances 10 recordings 4 series first heard Nov 2025 last heard 25 Mar

Michelle Hackman’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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It's actually like a little bit closer, technically speaking, to getting a parking ticket.
It's a civil violation of
The consequence of it is deportation.
But in the government's sort of really sterile legal parlance, deportation is not supposed to be like a criminal punishment.
So the training is evolving as we speak.
Traditionally, an ICE officer is supposed to get something like 16 weeks of training, and that includes everything from
learning the basics of immigration law, physical training, law enforcement training, how to use a gun, for example, and also learning to speak Spanish.
And this administration, because they're trying to bring on so many new ICE agents, they're
Thank you so much for having me.
There are several ways, but critics of ICE have always had this sense that it's a little bit of a rogue agency.
But I will say, as someone watching ICE—
In the past, even under the first Trump administration, largely speaking, the way ICE would operate was a little bit closer to a traditional police agency where they would put in a decent amount of police work before they try to go arrest someone.
They do some work to figure out, OK, we know this person is in the country illegally because they have a final deportation order.
They have this address on file with the government.
We know who they are.
We know where they live.
So we're going to go try to get them.
Now what's happening more and more is ICE officers is really being driven by the pressure that they're under to arrest lots of people.
And so what we're seeing is they're actually using basic profiling tactics to see if they can't find immigrants a little bit more quickly.
So there are two steps to making an arrest.
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