Michelle Hackman

For example, Hilton a few weeks ago had a hotel in Minneapolis refuse ICE officers to stay at their hotel.

And Hilton got so much blowback.

As long as you're an observer, you're free to do whatever you want.

You are legally allowed to record that interaction.

As long as you don't intervene in the interaction, you are OK.

I don't think it's going to be sort of at the same level as Minneapolis, partially because there are fewer officers and they're targeting the entire state.

In Minneapolis, what really made that operation so remarkable, and it's still ongoing, is that you have a relatively small city of about 400,000 people and 3,000 ICE officers there.

A lot of these visas actually go to companies.

There's sort of a whole business model that's sprung up around the H-1B visa of sort of IT companies who staff almost their entire companies with primarily Indian men on H-1B visas.

And their model is that they do IT a little bit cheaper than a lot of companies' in-house IT offices.

And so what's happened over the last 20 or 30 years is that a lot of companies have actually laid off their internal IT and hired these sort of IT external companies on H-1B visas to come work for them instead.

When Trump takes office, he obviously has all of this anti-immigrant rhetoric.

You know, Mexicans are rapists and refugees are all terrorists.

And his movement, you know, sort of involved a lot of, you know, we want to hire more Americans.

We don't want jobs to go to foreigners.

And so naturally, the H-1B visa became sort of a target in that broader rhetoric.

But during the first Trump administration, you had a lot of competing voices.

You know, Jared Kushner was in the White House, and he was sort of a more old-school Republican, pro-business voice.

He was a bigger fan of the H-1B visa program.

And so the story of the first Trump administration was you definitely had the MAGA right, hates the H-1B.