Michelle Kaplan

Or in theater, like we said about, you know, the people backstage, the crew, school, parents even, right?

my god that's so nice right there is there's a little something there and mom's being unsung heroes kind of right yeah yeah absolutely um so and even people in the office i mean the people you know deliver like the people delivering mail the people you know just keeping things together that we don't give them credit for um

I wonder if sometimes an unsung hero can feel underappreciated.

So it could be good to just draw attention to them and sometimes give these people that credit and turn them from an unsung hero to a sung hero.

Yeah.

Well, another example could be you were the unsung hero of that game.

Yeah.

Thomas made the points, but they were all coordinated plays through you.

you know pulling off the the score or the goal right yeah right like in basketball they you know they always count who's doing the assist okay you know so they call it the assist and then you know who so that's the person who did the pass right yeah and i like that in basketball there you know they do kind of value that as well okay um true so but what about in american society i mean do you think because we talk about like oh you know we love a hero right we love a hero right

Yeah.

Like the celebrities get the attention.

You know, it's always amazing, you know, like how much attention the celebrities get over the people who are saving lives and things like that.

But let's talk about some other ways that we can describe this type of a person.

So the first one is the backbone.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Yes.

And this is the one that we were, I was thinking about earlier.

So the glue, right?

If you, you know, the glue, it's just, it holds it together, right?

Everything, everything would fall apart without the glue, but you're not thinking about the glue.