Michelle 'Mace' Curran

but we're not going to look at that person and start attacking them and breaking down their character. Like that does not benefit us. And so just being brought up in the environment where I started to recognize the difference between those two and how much better I performed in one over the other, like the carrot or the stick, right? The stick works, but it's not sustainable.

but we're not going to look at that person and start attacking them and breaking down their character. Like that does not benefit us. And so just being brought up in the environment where I started to recognize the difference between those two and how much better I performed in one over the other, like the carrot or the stick, right? The stick works, but it's not sustainable.

but we're not going to look at that person and start attacking them and breaking down their character. Like that does not benefit us. And so just being brought up in the environment where I started to recognize the difference between those two and how much better I performed in one over the other, like the carrot or the stick, right? The stick works, but it's not sustainable.

And that starts to break down that trust between everyone on the team over time. So I think that helped give me perspective on the mistakes that I would make. But I mean, if it was something big or something that I knew I was better than that, I shouldn't have done not just something small. I'm like, I'm I'm a better pilot than what I just showed or I'm a better officer or teammate or whatever.

And that starts to break down that trust between everyone on the team over time. So I think that helped give me perspective on the mistakes that I would make. But I mean, if it was something big or something that I knew I was better than that, I shouldn't have done not just something small. I'm like, I'm I'm a better pilot than what I just showed or I'm a better officer or teammate or whatever.

And that starts to break down that trust between everyone on the team over time. So I think that helped give me perspective on the mistakes that I would make. But I mean, if it was something big or something that I knew I was better than that, I shouldn't have done not just something small. I'm like, I'm I'm a better pilot than what I just showed or I'm a better officer or teammate or whatever.

I mean, it would bother me. So I think it's something I still struggle with.

I mean, it would bother me. So I think it's something I still struggle with.

I mean, it would bother me. So I think it's something I still struggle with.

Yeah, I think it's something that a lot of people struggle with, especially when they're holding themselves to these really high standards. And to your point, when you're in these cultures where people really aren't embracing failure and they don't want you to have it.

Yeah, I think it's something that a lot of people struggle with, especially when they're holding themselves to these really high standards. And to your point, when you're in these cultures where people really aren't embracing failure and they don't want you to have it.

Yeah, I think it's something that a lot of people struggle with, especially when they're holding themselves to these really high standards. And to your point, when you're in these cultures where people really aren't embracing failure and they don't want you to have it.

And I love that you brought that up, the difference being in an environment that really is full of trust and support versus one that verbalizes they are, but you know you are being judged and you are not supported. is such a polar opposite. And there is just no way you'll ever thrive to the same level. If you don't find that true, loyal, embracing, supportive culture, it is such a game changer.

And I love that you brought that up, the difference being in an environment that really is full of trust and support versus one that verbalizes they are, but you know you are being judged and you are not supported. is such a polar opposite. And there is just no way you'll ever thrive to the same level. If you don't find that true, loyal, embracing, supportive culture, it is such a game changer.

And I love that you brought that up, the difference being in an environment that really is full of trust and support versus one that verbalizes they are, but you know you are being judged and you are not supported. is such a polar opposite. And there is just no way you'll ever thrive to the same level. If you don't find that true, loyal, embracing, supportive culture, it is such a game changer.

Okay. So I want to talk a little bit about, first of all, you made this incredible leap into becoming a jet fighter pilot, which is crazy and seeing you overcame So much fear, so much, you know, lacking confidence, self-doubt, imposter syndrome. You overcame all that. Now you made it to the pinnacle. You're inspiring people. You're loving what you're doing. You have passion and purpose.

Okay. So I want to talk a little bit about, first of all, you made this incredible leap into becoming a jet fighter pilot, which is crazy and seeing you overcame So much fear, so much, you know, lacking confidence, self-doubt, imposter syndrome. You overcame all that. Now you made it to the pinnacle. You're inspiring people. You're loving what you're doing. You have passion and purpose.

Okay. So I want to talk a little bit about, first of all, you made this incredible leap into becoming a jet fighter pilot, which is crazy and seeing you overcame So much fear, so much, you know, lacking confidence, self-doubt, imposter syndrome. You overcame all that. Now you made it to the pinnacle. You're inspiring people. You're loving what you're doing. You have passion and purpose.

How do you go from that to making a leap? Like, oh, hey, let me jump into the dark again and start over as an entrepreneur, having no idea. And I'll be a rookie again and start over. Like what thrusts you into wanting to do that again?

How do you go from that to making a leap? Like, oh, hey, let me jump into the dark again and start over as an entrepreneur, having no idea. And I'll be a rookie again and start over. Like what thrusts you into wanting to do that again?