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I'm ready whenever you are. Actually, I lied. Okay, I just need to get the... Okay, okay, now I'm ready. Hadn't loaded yet. Here I am. Okay. Okay. President Trump is blasting the nation's monetary policy chief over interest rates.

I'm ready whenever you are. Actually, I lied. Okay, I just need to get the... Okay, okay, now I'm ready. Hadn't loaded yet. Here I am. Okay. Okay. President Trump is blasting the nation's monetary policy chief over interest rates.

I'm ready whenever you are. Actually, I lied. Okay, I just need to get the... Okay, okay, now I'm ready. Hadn't loaded yet. Here I am. Okay. Okay. President Trump is blasting the nation's monetary policy chief over interest rates.

I'm Michelle Martin, that's A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News. A judge says the Trump administration ignored his orders to turn around two planes carrying alleged gang members to detention centers in El Salvador. And President Trump says he would like to find a way to lock up Americans abroad.

I'm Michelle Martin, that's A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News. A judge says the Trump administration ignored his orders to turn around two planes carrying alleged gang members to detention centers in El Salvador. And President Trump says he would like to find a way to lock up Americans abroad.

I'm Michelle Martin, that's A. Martinez, and this is Up First from NPR News. A judge says the Trump administration ignored his orders to turn around two planes carrying alleged gang members to detention centers in El Salvador. And President Trump says he would like to find a way to lock up Americans abroad.

President Trump is feuding with Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell. In a post on his Truth Social account, Trump said Powell's termination, quote, cannot come soon enough, unquote. Now, it isn't clear whether the president was calling for the Fed chair to be dismissed immediately or at the end of his term in May of 2026.

President Trump is feuding with Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell. In a post on his Truth Social account, Trump said Powell's termination, quote, cannot come soon enough, unquote. Now, it isn't clear whether the president was calling for the Fed chair to be dismissed immediately or at the end of his term in May of 2026.

President Trump is feuding with Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell. In a post on his Truth Social account, Trump said Powell's termination, quote, cannot come soon enough, unquote. Now, it isn't clear whether the president was calling for the Fed chair to be dismissed immediately or at the end of his term in May of 2026.

In his post, Trump said Powell was, quote, too late and wrong, unquote, on interest rates. This all comes as Americans are feeling gloomier about the economy.

In his post, Trump said Powell was, quote, too late and wrong, unquote, on interest rates. This all comes as Americans are feeling gloomier about the economy.

In his post, Trump said Powell was, quote, too late and wrong, unquote, on interest rates. This all comes as Americans are feeling gloomier about the economy.

That's what U.S. District Judge James Boasberg ruled yesterday. He said the government ignored his order last month to turn back two planes carrying Venezuelan migrants to a prison in El Salvador. It's just one of the high-profile cases in which federal judges are trying to hold the Trump administration accountable for flouting judicial orders.

That's what U.S. District Judge James Boasberg ruled yesterday. He said the government ignored his order last month to turn back two planes carrying Venezuelan migrants to a prison in El Salvador. It's just one of the high-profile cases in which federal judges are trying to hold the Trump administration accountable for flouting judicial orders.

That's what U.S. District Judge James Boasberg ruled yesterday. He said the government ignored his order last month to turn back two planes carrying Venezuelan migrants to a prison in El Salvador. It's just one of the high-profile cases in which federal judges are trying to hold the Trump administration accountable for flouting judicial orders.

Some legal experts told NPR they fear the White House is preparing to move ahead with that plan, even though they say jailing Americans overseas is unconstitutional.

Some legal experts told NPR they fear the White House is preparing to move ahead with that plan, even though they say jailing Americans overseas is unconstitutional.

Some legal experts told NPR they fear the White House is preparing to move ahead with that plan, even though they say jailing Americans overseas is unconstitutional.

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