Michelle Martin

We're joined now by NPR's Jenna McLaughlin, who covers cybersecurity. Good morning, Jenna. Good morning, Michelle. So what sort of things did the whistleblower see that made him want to come forward?

We're joined now by NPR's Jenna McLaughlin, who covers cybersecurity. Good morning, Jenna. Good morning, Michelle. So what sort of things did the whistleblower see that made him want to come forward?

Let's back up for a second. For people who don't know, what is the National Labor Relations Board, or the NLRB, and what does it do, and why is the data that it holds sensitive?

Let's back up for a second. For people who don't know, what is the National Labor Relations Board, or the NLRB, and what does it do, and why is the data that it holds sensitive?

Let's back up for a second. For people who don't know, what is the National Labor Relations Board, or the NLRB, and what does it do, and why is the data that it holds sensitive?

So this Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, is led by Elon Musk. Does he fit into the story?

So this Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, is led by Elon Musk. Does he fit into the story?

So this Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, is led by Elon Musk. Does he fit into the story?

Do we have any evidence that Doge is acting this way in other parts of the federal government?

Do we have any evidence that Doge is acting this way in other parts of the federal government?

Do we have any evidence that Doge is acting this way in other parts of the federal government?

That was NPR cybersecurity correspondent Jenna McLaughlin. Jenna, thank you. Thank you. You can find a lot more of Jenna's reporting at NPR.org and hear more about this story on All Things Considered tonight.

That was NPR cybersecurity correspondent Jenna McLaughlin. Jenna, thank you. Thank you. You can find a lot more of Jenna's reporting at NPR.org and hear more about this story on All Things Considered tonight.

That was NPR cybersecurity correspondent Jenna McLaughlin. Jenna, thank you. Thank you. You can find a lot more of Jenna's reporting at NPR.org and hear more about this story on All Things Considered tonight.

This move came hours after Harvard said it will not comply with the administration's demands that it drastically change its hiring, admissions, and other policies in exchange for federal money. NPR's Jonaki Mehta has been following this.

This move came hours after Harvard said it will not comply with the administration's demands that it drastically change its hiring, admissions, and other policies in exchange for federal money. NPR's Jonaki Mehta has been following this.

This move came hours after Harvard said it will not comply with the administration's demands that it drastically change its hiring, admissions, and other policies in exchange for federal money. NPR's Jonaki Mehta has been following this.

And that's Up First for Tuesday, April 15th. I'm Laila Faldin. And I'm Michelle Martin. Your next listen is Consider This from NPR. We here at Up First give you the three big stories of the day. Our Consider This colleagues take a different approach. They dive into a single news story and what it means to you in less than 15 minutes. Listen now on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

And that's Up First for Tuesday, April 15th. I'm Laila Faldin. And I'm Michelle Martin. Your next listen is Consider This from NPR. We here at Up First give you the three big stories of the day. Our Consider This colleagues take a different approach. They dive into a single news story and what it means to you in less than 15 minutes. Listen now on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

And that's Up First for Tuesday, April 15th. I'm Laila Faldin. And I'm Michelle Martin. Your next listen is Consider This from NPR. We here at Up First give you the three big stories of the day. Our Consider This colleagues take a different approach. They dive into a single news story and what it means to you in less than 15 minutes. Listen now on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.