Michelle Obama

They are siblings.

They treat each other like siblings.

And it's a real cool dynamic.

So the older ones never had to sort of be the parents because we were the parents.

So they could take on that sibling role.

And believe me, I have used the older kids...

To get certain messages across to the younger kids.

Because as you all know, you get tired of hearing the same voice over and over again.

And my wife and I, they're tired of hearing us over and over again.

So every now and then we'll be like, hey, talk to your little brothers.

Just change the voice.

And surprisingly, it can be more effective.

So really our daughter, who is 29, was in high school, was just going into high school when our two younger ones were born.

So they spent some time.

Now the older one had gone away to prep school and then to college.

So he didn't spend much time in the house with them, but our daughter did.

And as a result, those two always viewed her as the conquering hero of the family.

It's been really interesting.

And she was a basketball player.

Well, so was Avery, too.