Michelle Obama

Because, I mean, you just forget like real life, what it is to…

go out and be in some grass and lay in the sun and not have your phone to distract you.

What it feels like to hike up that mountain without having to post about it and be like, look at me.

Not needing the validation from the outside world in order to feel complete, I think is something that I, is a theme that I'm learning.

And

It's internal work.

Yeah, absolutely.

You look amazing.

Thank you.

Oh my goodness.

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The thing that ends up happening with comedy is that almost no one asks you to start, you know?

They weren't.

They didn't sit me down and they were like, this is the only hope.

You know what I mean?

Like, it's not like playing basketball.