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Michelle Singletary

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186 total appearances

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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

But in the end, it's her money and they gave it over to her because it's her money. Then the scammer manipulated and tricked her into taking the money and divided it into four banks in Maryland because they know the system, right? If you pull almost $600,000 out, And then you put it into an account and then try to take it all at once. That's going to send like all kinds of bills.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

But in the end, it's her money and they gave it over to her because it's her money. Then the scammer manipulated and tricked her into taking the money and divided it into four banks in Maryland because they know the system, right? If you pull almost $600,000 out, And then you put it into an account and then try to take it all at once. That's going to send like all kinds of bills.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

But in the end, it's her money and they gave it over to her because it's her money. Then the scammer manipulated and tricked her into taking the money and divided it into four banks in Maryland because they know the system, right? If you pull almost $600,000 out, And then you put it into an account and then try to take it all at once. That's going to send like all kinds of bills.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

And so pulling out $10,000 to $20,000 at a time from those different banks, the scammer was hoping that nobody would notice that they wouldn't say something. And in one of the parts, I talked to a scam victim and a bank manager actually saved her from having more money stolen because he suspected something.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

And so pulling out $10,000 to $20,000 at a time from those different banks, the scammer was hoping that nobody would notice that they wouldn't say something. And in one of the parts, I talked to a scam victim and a bank manager actually saved her from having more money stolen because he suspected something.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

And so pulling out $10,000 to $20,000 at a time from those different banks, the scammer was hoping that nobody would notice that they wouldn't say something. And in one of the parts, I talked to a scam victim and a bank manager actually saved her from having more money stolen because he suspected something.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

But instead of saying, ma'am, I think this is a scam, he said, hey, why don't you come into my office? Let's talk about what's going on. Where's the money being sent again? Let me just make sure it's going to be sent to the right address. Then he pulled it up on his computer and showed her that it was an abandoned house. So see how he did that differently?

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

But instead of saying, ma'am, I think this is a scam, he said, hey, why don't you come into my office? Let's talk about what's going on. Where's the money being sent again? Let me just make sure it's going to be sent to the right address. Then he pulled it up on his computer and showed her that it was an abandoned house. So see how he did that differently?

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

But instead of saying, ma'am, I think this is a scam, he said, hey, why don't you come into my office? Let's talk about what's going on. Where's the money being sent again? Let me just make sure it's going to be sent to the right address. Then he pulled it up on his computer and showed her that it was an abandoned house. So see how he did that differently?

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

He didn't go, nobody would ask you for that. He said, hey, let's see where the address, let's just double check where the money's being sent. That's a different way. And when he did that and he showed her on the computer, that's when she came out of the ether. And they called the police and they came to the bank branch.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

He didn't go, nobody would ask you for that. He said, hey, let's see where the address, let's just double check where the money's being sent. That's a different way. And when he did that and he showed her on the computer, that's when she came out of the ether. And they called the police and they came to the bank branch.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

He didn't go, nobody would ask you for that. He said, hey, let's see where the address, let's just double check where the money's being sent. That's a different way. And when he did that and he showed her on the computer, that's when she came out of the ether. And they called the police and they came to the bank branch.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

That's exactly right. You have to lead them. You have to be gentle. You can't be judgmental because they are in this ether and you have to slowly pull them out. Because remember, the scammer has been talking to them every day, week in, week out. You think you're talking to a police, a real agent of the FBI.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

That's exactly right. You have to lead them. You have to be gentle. You can't be judgmental because they are in this ether and you have to slowly pull them out. Because remember, the scammer has been talking to them every day, week in, week out. You think you're talking to a police, a real agent of the FBI.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

That's exactly right. You have to lead them. You have to be gentle. You can't be judgmental because they are in this ether and you have to slowly pull them out. Because remember, the scammer has been talking to them every day, week in, week out. You think you're talking to a police, a real agent of the FBI.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

And the agent is saying the whole time, listen, don't tell anybody because this could jeopardize the case. So there was enough nuggets of truth to make it believable.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

And the agent is saying the whole time, listen, don't tell anybody because this could jeopardize the case. So there was enough nuggets of truth to make it believable.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

And the agent is saying the whole time, listen, don't tell anybody because this could jeopardize the case. So there was enough nuggets of truth to make it believable.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

Unfortunately, her money's gone. The FBI did get the case. And in fact, she was one of 13 victims with the same scammer using the same agent's information. The amount of money stolen from them was almost $3 million. And they tracked it to a syndicate in India. And that's where it is now. There are investigators in India trying to track it down. But in all likelihood, the money is all gone.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Swindled or Safe? Improve Your Scam Awareness and Protect Your Finances

Unfortunately, her money's gone. The FBI did get the case. And in fact, she was one of 13 victims with the same scammer using the same agent's information. The amount of money stolen from them was almost $3 million. And they tracked it to a syndicate in India. And that's where it is now. There are investigators in India trying to track it down. But in all likelihood, the money is all gone.