Mick Hunt

And it is not uncommon, and I see this in the insurance industry.

Someone who started as a CSR 30 years ago is still a CSR today, meaning they're not trying to climb the corporate ladder.

Well, that's different today.

People that get hired today, and I don't mean age, I just mean in general, as society, it's like, okay,

How can I get promoted?

How can I get ownership in the company?

How can I get stock?

Those are the things that matter.

But also understanding, yeah, I'm going to be a creator on the side too, or like I'm going to have my phone out recording while I'm helping this customer over here or doing whatever.

So I think the first thing that's going to change in leadership is just understanding that just like we talk about multiple streams of income, there's going to be multiple streams of leadership, meaning you've got to touch people at different places.

My team and one of my companies is a thousand percent remote.

We don't have a corporate office.

We don't even meet on Zoom as much.

I do because I'm the CEO and I wanna paint the vision, but departments, everybody knows what they're doing and they just go do their thing.

And like, you've gotta get used to that in this remote world too.

Another thing that's gonna change

and leadership that I think is critical is allowing your team to stand on their own and make mistakes because the world changes so fast.

You and I know this just in podcast technology.

The workflow that we had two weeks ago isn't the workflow that we have today for anything.

Right.