Mick Lynch

What would they do about public spending?

Nobody's put out a mini-manifesto.

And if it's just about, you know, I like this person, but I don't like that person or he's not dynamic enough, it could be that we have a fairly stale contest because they're all stuck with the spending limits that Labour declared before the election, which were the ones that the Tories had.

And that's put them in a straitjacket of not being able to dole out the cash in certain regions or in certain sectors of the economy to make people feel better.

So it could be

a fairly stale debate if somebody doesn't do something radical.

Yeah, and I think many people on the left of the party and the centre of the party would support Angela Rennie.

She's got a lot of appeal.

Her backstory is very strong.

She was a young single mother from a council estate who left school at 16 and brought herself up and came through the trade union movement as a shop steward to become a leading politician and a deputy prime minister.

And she was done in, frankly, I believe, by some people inside the Labour Party who didn't like

that kind of story and somebody from that background coming to the fore rather than a more familiar professional politician, even though that's what she is now.

So, you know, I think that the hand of Morgan McSweeney and Mandelson were behind the leaking of that story, which ultimately the tax story, that's my belief, that news had to come from within the Labour Party, I believe.

And the same with another leading woman that was the transport secretary was put out of her position from the soft left.

So this has been going on for quite a while since Starmer came to power.

But now that Mandelson and McSweeney aren't there, I think the shackles are off and people are able to come out and say, I'm opposed to this and I want to have a change of direction.

So we'll have to see.

But somebody's people have to put their cards on the table.

So people are hedging their bets.

There must be an awful lot of WhatsApp groups and all sorts of phone calls going on down in Westminster to all these people.