Mick Moran

No, the Calm is just a group of youngfellas, really, or young people who get together and just turn into a kind of an online Fagans community.

And they can be on any platform.

They can be meeting anywhere, wherever groups can be formed, you know, the likes of Discord, Zap, whatever, these type of groups.

And they come together and they get into just all sorts of things.

of development that will then continue on and escalate often very quickly and it can be as harm apparently harmless as just sharing you know the most egregious content they can find online with each other into the group or it can then escalate into um the sexual extortion of other

the trapping of them in a power humiliation, isolation, harm dynamic that then results in acts being carried out in the real world.

The more bizarre, the more egregious, the more outrageous, the better.

And they are shared back into the group again using live stream capabilities of, again, the different platforms, you know.

For the crack is the simple answer.

And then it depends on who is leading the group.

Then how...

how psychopathic is that person and how far it goes.

And of course, group dynamics means that if you're delivering into the group the most outrageous material or the most outrageous act in the real world, then you gain kudos and status within the group.

Yes, it is.

It is quite difficult.

And I know the report there recently that outlined how it's kind of

the thing is resistant really to siloed enforcement, you know?

So if it's only the child teams in police forces are looking at it, or if it's only the cybercrime team, or if it's only the terrorism teams that are looking at it, well then...

together and come together in a con group generally are young lads that are maybe playing games together or young people who are playing game who are gaming together they they form this group they share you know gore uh horror um you know uh taboo subjects like they'll go after you know nazi memorabilia stuff like that they'll do all that sort of stuff and then

you know, obviously they engage in kind of manosphere style activity, stuff like misogyny and whatever.