Mike Baker

So we've won, right?

And we've shown what we can do.

And now...

We're in a discussion to get some concessions that we probably wouldn't have had before this conflict kicked off.

And in exchange, we what?

We allow vessels to go through the Strait of Hormuz.

So.

Again, nobody wanted this regime to disappear more than I did.

I was very, very keen at the outset of the conflict thinking, you know, this... I don't think I was overly hopeful.

It wasn't like I thought, okay, we're going to drop some munitions and suddenly the people of Iran are going to rise up and it's all going to work very well.

It was always going to be rather messy.

But...

You know, it would have been great to see this regime gone.

I would love to see them gone in terms of long term stability in the region, prosperity for all the Gulf states, the betterment of the Iranian people.

get rid of this regime, carve it out of existence.

But to your point, you mentioned they may have rushed into things.

I think there was a misinterpretation in the early days of this as to how this might go.

And in fact, the White House was talking about how this could take just days, right?

Yeah.

Well, so what do you think in terms of the likelihood we've got to see this?