Mike Benz

I think it's enormous. I think that's why they want it shut down in Brazil unless compliance measures were put in place. I think that the Lula government, as well as the Biden government, was intensely aware that the power of social media would be the determinant of whether or not the election would go one way or the other.

I think it's enormous. I think that's why they want it shut down in Brazil unless compliance measures were put in place. I think that the Lula government, as well as the Biden government, was intensely aware that the power of social media would be the determinant of whether or not the election would go one way or the other.

I have quotes from the people involved in this that they believe their work censoring Bolsonaro was... in terms of tilting it in Lula's favor. There was a personal meeting, actually, Lula's... I think it was, what, his first month in office at the first meeting with the Biden administration.

I have quotes from the people involved in this that they believe their work censoring Bolsonaro was... in terms of tilting it in Lula's favor. There was a personal meeting, actually, Lula's... I think it was, what, his first month in office at the first meeting with the Biden administration.

I know you're accusing me of going back to the slideshow, but the fact is I think that a lot of people haven't seen this, and since I know that... I'm not accusing you at all.

I know you're accusing me of going back to the slideshow, but the fact is I think that a lot of people haven't seen this, and since I know that... I'm not accusing you at all.

I'm being cheeky.

I'm being cheeky.

Well, what I'm showing here is this is the... Okay, so this is February 2023. So I guess this was... This is a joint statement following the meeting between President Biden and President Lula. So I think this was their first meeting after the 2022 election. So today, President Biden and President Lula...

Well, what I'm showing here is this is the... Okay, so this is February 2023. So I guess this was... This is a joint statement following the meeting between President Biden and President Lula. So I think this was their first meeting after the 2022 election. So today, President Biden and President Lula...

During the meeting, they discussed the nature of the U.S.-Brazil relationship, strengthening democracy. Go to the next slide. Biden and Lula pledged to work together to strengthen democratic institutions, which means strengthen these control networks, and reaffirmed their intention to build societal resilience to disinformation and to work together on that. So Biden and Lula pledged.

During the meeting, they discussed the nature of the U.S.-Brazil relationship, strengthening democracy. Go to the next slide. Biden and Lula pledged to work together to strengthen democratic institutions, which means strengthen these control networks, and reaffirmed their intention to build societal resilience to disinformation and to work together on that. So Biden and Lula pledged.

talked about the need to stop online disinformation and agreed to work together. When I go back to this coordination between the White House, the State Department, the Pentagon, the CIA, the NGOs, this is part of an interagency working group to control the internal politics of Brazil. And that money is still flowing. And it's not just USAID. They're the biggest money spigot.

talked about the need to stop online disinformation and agreed to work together. When I go back to this coordination between the White House, the State Department, the Pentagon, the CIA, the NGOs, this is part of an interagency working group to control the internal politics of Brazil. And that money is still flowing. And it's not just USAID. They're the biggest money spigot.

But I'll give you some other examples because I'm actually fascinated about what something Nicholas just said about the fires. But maybe I'll start with with if you go to slide. This is, I think, 24, 24, 25. Yeah. Yeah. Next one. Sorry. 25 or 25. Can you blow that up? Okay, so here's just one. Rob, can you zoom in a little bit, even more?

But I'll give you some other examples because I'm actually fascinated about what something Nicholas just said about the fires. But maybe I'll start with with if you go to slide. This is, I think, 24, 24, 25. Yeah. Yeah. Next one. Sorry. 25 or 25. Can you blow that up? Okay, so here's just one. Rob, can you zoom in a little bit, even more?

Yeah, so would you say the unions are more pro-Bolsonaro or pro-Lula in Brazil? It's a union candidate.

Yeah, so would you say the unions are more pro-Bolsonaro or pro-Lula in Brazil? It's a union candidate.

Yeah, the whole thing's unions. So here's a $12 million U.S. Department of Labor. That's... my wallet, Patrick, your wallet, U.S. citizens, paying $12 million to the unions in Brazil. So I'm going to read some of these details, okay? What?

Yeah, the whole thing's unions. So here's a $12 million U.S. Department of Labor. That's... my wallet, Patrick, your wallet, U.S. citizens, paying $12 million to the unions in Brazil. So I'm going to read some of these details, okay? What?