Mike Carruthers

We're talking about safety, personal safety, and my guest is Spencer Corson.

He's author of the book, The Safety Trap, a security expert's secrets for staying safe in a dangerous world.

So Spencer, what about the situation, and I think everybody's had this situation happen, where you're somewhere and somebody comes up to you and they start a conversation.

It doesn't feel right.

It's like this could lead to trouble.

It sounds off.

What do you do?

Because most of the time it isn't there.

So why look if most of the time it isn't there, you feel pretty comfortable not looking.

Like you said, though, if you don't engage, if you're not looking for danger, you'll fail to see the warning signs.

But I also worry, too, that if you're always looking for danger, you're always going to see danger.

And I don't know that I want to live my life that way, where I'm always on alert.

I'm always looking for trouble.

I think it's human nature though, that if you live a life that is relatively safe and

Seldom does anything dangerous happen to you.

Seldom do the people you know have anything dangerous happen to them.

It's very hard to stay vigilant against danger.

You almost feel foolish being so vigilant when nothing ever really seems to happen.

When you look at the practices and the procedures that are in place for businesses or schools or whatever, what are the things where you see the weak spots?

Where are the problems?