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Mike Durant

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

I mean, you think about it, we're right on the heels of Desert Storm.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

And this is kind of how I explain this from a Somali perspective.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

And I mean, we kicked the shit out of Saddam Hussein in 100 hours, you know.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

And so the Somalis are looking at this as, we can't win this.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

This is, we got to figure out some other way, turn it more into an insurgency, which is essentially what they did.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

And the initial phase of this operation is,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

I don't want to say it's a cakewalk, it never is when you enter into a country like that, but it goes really well.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

Security's provided, relief organizations got protection, food's getting to people who need it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

Mission's over, right?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

Well, we have an election back here and we put a different administration in the White House, Bill Clinton, and they don't know shit about foreign policy.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

I mean, they just don't.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

They're very naive.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

in thinking that, well, you know, we went there to provide security, but maybe we could help them kind of turn things around and, you know, build their economy back and get a government put back in place and all those things that sound really great, but go try freaking doing it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

You know, I mean, it's very, very difficult to do.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

But that's the mission.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

So the mission transitions from security only to trying to gain control of the city so that a provisional government can be stood up into power.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

Because right now it's just warlords and warring clans got a rule on their roost.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

And in any change scenario like this, the person who's got the most to lose is going to resist the most.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

I mean, if you're a deed and you have 60% of the support of the people and the Haber-Getter clan is controlling the majority of Mogadishu, you don't want to see change.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#259 Mike Durant - 160th SOAR Pilot Who Survived Black Hawk Down and 11 Days as a POW

You got what you want.