Mike Hosking

And so there were some key highlights there.

But the important part being she potentially could be, if you believe the polls, she could potentially be Australia's next prime minister.

And from that, you've got to take it seriously.

So we'll come back to that in a moment.

23 to 8.

Charlie Puth, by the way, after 8 o'clock this morning.

Does the government have trouble on jobs?

There's my question for you.

They wanted to reduce job seeker numbers to 140,000.

Latest Treasury guess yesterday says they're going to miss by 44%.

They reckon 201,000 are going to be jobless by 2030.

So Louise Upston is the Minister of Social Development and Employment and is back with us.

A very good morning to you.

Good morning to you, Mike.

See, I'm trying to work out whether this is even a story.

Because, I mean, Treasury go by 2030.

Who the hell knows what's going to happen by 2030?

I mean, it's a guess, isn't it?

Well, I'm just really focused on what we're doing day to day.

And I'm really confident that we're making progress towards our target.