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Mike Israetel

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2772 total appearances

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The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

So if we just end the food noise, some people will still be overweight, even if they're auto-Zenpa because they're like, ah, whatever, just Reese's cups. Enough Reese's cups can defeat any amount of pharmacology so far. For those people, all those discussions about like, hey, you should be more diligent, you should be planning, yeah, they're all still valid.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

But if we can just remove one impediment, amazing. People come at this from a morality, you have to earn your keep. Now, in sport competition, hell yeah, it's cheating. Now, in bodybuilding competition, they don't test for drugs at all. It's not cheating at all. But people take this morality, this cheating stuff, and they put it out in the real world.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

But if we can just remove one impediment, amazing. People come at this from a morality, you have to earn your keep. Now, in sport competition, hell yeah, it's cheating. Now, in bodybuilding competition, they don't test for drugs at all. It's not cheating at all. But people take this morality, this cheating stuff, and they put it out in the real world.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Many of them do. Some of them don't. You also hear a total calorie expenditure throughout the week is so preposterous. Sometimes cyclists have trouble keeping up their weight. So you see all the whole range.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Many of them do. Some of them don't. You also hear a total calorie expenditure throughout the week is so preposterous. Sometimes cyclists have trouble keeping up their weight. So you see all the whole range.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

But if there is a drug that solves a very big problem for you that makes you better and you're purporting to be a drug-free federation, yes, you should be testing for it and it should be a banned substance.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

But if there is a drug that solves a very big problem for you that makes you better and you're purporting to be a drug-free federation, yes, you should be testing for it and it should be a banned substance.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Thank you so much for having me on. If you want to ever have a round two, just let me know.

The Peter Attia Drive
#335 โ€’ The science of resistance training, building muscle, and anabolic steroid use in bodybuilding | Mike Israetel, Ph.D.

Thank you so much for having me on. If you want to ever have a round two, just let me know.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

You know, the animals, and humans are animals, animals survive with a couple of like non-negotiable needs. One of those is to acquire enough hydration, water. One of those is to stay away from predators. And another one is to acquire food in some capacity. And that's actually true for animals that even that don't reproduce.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

You know, the animals, and humans are animals, animals survive with a couple of like non-negotiable needs. One of those is to acquire enough hydration, water. One of those is to stay away from predators. And another one is to acquire food in some capacity. And that's actually true for animals that even that don't reproduce.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

You know, the animals, and humans are animals, animals survive with a couple of like non-negotiable needs. One of those is to acquire enough hydration, water. One of those is to stay away from predators. And another one is to acquire food in some capacity. And that's actually true for animals that even that don't reproduce.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

So it's true to say that your desire, for example, for something like air, what's called air hunger, is higher than your desire for water. If someone said, listen, I'm either going to not let you breathe for the next 30 seconds or you just don't have to drink water for the next 30 seconds. You'd have to be unbelievably dehydrated to actually prefer the water more.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

So it's true to say that your desire, for example, for something like air, what's called air hunger, is higher than your desire for water. If someone said, listen, I'm either going to not let you breathe for the next 30 seconds or you just don't have to drink water for the next 30 seconds. You'd have to be unbelievably dehydrated to actually prefer the water more.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

So it's true to say that your desire, for example, for something like air, what's called air hunger, is higher than your desire for water. If someone said, listen, I'm either going to not let you breathe for the next 30 seconds or you just don't have to drink water for the next 30 seconds. You'd have to be unbelievably dehydrated to actually prefer the water more.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

And you got air hunger, you got fluid hunger, aka thirst, and then you have food hunger, aka hunger hunger, and that drives you to consume calories and any kind of food you can get, really. There are gradations of food that you prefer more than other foods.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

And you got air hunger, you got fluid hunger, aka thirst, and then you have food hunger, aka hunger hunger, and that drives you to consume calories and any kind of food you can get, really. There are gradations of food that you prefer more than other foods.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

And you got air hunger, you got fluid hunger, aka thirst, and then you have food hunger, aka hunger hunger, and that drives you to consume calories and any kind of food you can get, really. There are gradations of food that you prefer more than other foods.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

And that evolutionary drive is probably about as old as nervous systems, like all of them, worms and flies and parakeets and monkeys and humans and everyone. And so the drive to consume calories being one of the fundamental animal drives is also a fundamental human drive. And that means it is ultra, ultra deep drive. And it has a function, which is to make sure you get enough food.

Dhru Purohit Show
Are You Sabotaging Your Weight Loss Goals? Expert Sheds Light on the Key to Becoming Leaner and Stronger in 2025 with Dr. Mike Israetel

And that evolutionary drive is probably about as old as nervous systems, like all of them, worms and flies and parakeets and monkeys and humans and everyone. And so the drive to consume calories being one of the fundamental animal drives is also a fundamental human drive. And that means it is ultra, ultra deep drive. And it has a function, which is to make sure you get enough food.