Mike Johnson

And if you get that answer from him, oh, I'm with you.

You trade him now, and you give any team, even if it's not Jersey, where he eventually will want to go, let's just say, and you give him two years of Quinn Hughes for the playoffs, you could get...

A mountain of assets for two years of Quinn Hughes on an affordable contract.

If you're Carolina, they've taken big swings, right?

Do you not trade another first and Logan Stank open for him?

Again, Stanky?

They traded for Rantanen for two months on the hope that he might stay.

They're going to get this guy for two years, and their window is right now.

I just said Stankoven because he was just traded for a big player.

Logan, you're a good guy.

You signed an extension.

I'm just saying, Jackson, Blake, whoever you want to put out there, Sveshnikov, whatever, apparently his name's out there.

I'm saying if I'm Carolina, I go fetch and a first rounder for two years at him, even if I know he's going to walk.

I do.

You would have to.

I don't think he does, no.

No.

Because, Joe, you can't get them until you're old enough to be a UFA.

And I don't know if he's been in the league long enough, seven years.

Right.