Mike Johnson

It happens to everyone.

You know, the Leafs went through a 10-year run until it happened to them, and it happened quick.

And the Cliffs came in a hurry, and they're teetering on it now, or they've gone over it.

You know, Vegas is probably not quite there.

But yeah, I think...

There is an element where, yeah, they're no longer ascending.

They're just trying to slow the descent to mediocrity.

How many times over under is the Fraser-Minton –

Brandon Carlo trade is going to be mentioned on the broadcast.

Last minute talks.

For a trade that didn't work out well, now, I would like to believe, even if I've not talked to you about Brandon Carlo as a trade, you would have sourced it well through with your people.

I don't have to talk to the other GM, but I would know what my team thinks about that player.

It's not like he just spun the dial and said, no, let's go for that guy.

We don't know much about him, but let's do it anyway because we need somebody.

I would hope and trust that that's not the case, even if

They got to it at the very end of the trade deadline.

I'm assuming they did their due diligence on the player, which might have been a myth anyways, but I'm assuming they did it and he wasn't swinging blind.

You just do not add it.

But you got to remember where they were last year.

They were first in the division.