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Mike Johnson

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CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

And I think that really genuinely is true.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

That is where we're at today, that you can be that much more effective by partnering with AI rather than assuming that it's just going to do all the work for you or just that somebody else is going to do the work.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

So the gist of it, I agree with.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

I think at the same time, the amount of money raises my eyebrows.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

What I'd say is you've seen more the concept of agents controlling other agents.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

It used to be this is an agent that is standalone.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

It can do many things.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

I think what we've seen is smaller but more agents along with some sort of master control agent on top of that.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

And that's what I think we'll continue to see more of.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

Yeah, and we've already done it, and we will continue to do it.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

You did phase someone out already?

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

Absolutely.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

And I think that is the world that we're in today, where a vendor needs to set themselves apart from a generic LLM, because if a generic LLM can replace them, they're not differentiated.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

And if they're not differentiated, we can just do it ourselves.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

All right, good point.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

So part of the inspiration for that post was where a TPM on my team came to me and said, can I have a cursor license?

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

This is someone who has never written a line of code in their life.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

And that really stopped to have me think of we can really empower the whole team.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

Everybody can augment themselves regardless of their role, regardless of how technical it might be.

CISO Series Podcast
AI Confidence: It's a Trap! (LIVE in San Francisco)

Engineers, it's a more obvious use case, but where you've got folks who aren't used to writing code, who are adopting, I'm going to go build a thing to make my life easier.