Mike Johnson

So it really, that outside party does help raise the stakes.

Well, I mean, this is coming from the CEO of the company who makes hardware that burns tokens.

Yeah, they'd be, what, the first $10 trillion company?

I think if you look at the gist of it, it really is engineers really should be leaning into,

augmenting themselves, getting more done with AI.

And I think that really genuinely is true.

That is where we're at today, that you can be that much more effective by partnering with AI rather than assuming that it's just going to do all the work for you or just that somebody else is going to do the work.

So the gist of it, I agree with.

I think at the same time, the amount of money raises my eyebrows.

What I'd say is you've seen more the concept of agents controlling other agents.

It used to be this is an agent that is standalone.

It can do many things.

I think what we've seen is smaller but more agents along with some sort of master control agent on top of that.

And that's what I think we'll continue to see more of.

Yeah, and we've already done it, and we will continue to do it.

You did phase someone out already?

Absolutely.

And I think that is the world that we're in today, where a vendor needs to set themselves apart from a generic LLM, because if a generic LLM can replace them, they're not differentiated.

And if they're not differentiated, we can just do it ourselves.

All right, good point.