Mike Johnson

Like, you can't pull Matthews aside and say, hey, we're just two captains, let's grab a beer and talk as players.

He's not that anymore.

Why can't he?

Because he's not.

He's technically Matthews' boss now, or he's in the executive office.

I guess that's what I'm asking you.

I'm asking you to play the role of Matthews and Willie.

Do you think they look at him differently?

Is he a confidant?

Or is he going back to tell Chayka and them and saying, hey, Boston just told me we've got problems in the room.

And it's like, well, you're no longer Matt's the guy who – you're not a player anymore.

That's what I'm getting at.

He's got to shed the I'm the former player because he's an executive now.

I'm not saying he wouldn't do that.

I'm saying, do you think Brady speaks to him as the player Dave Pullen or as the manager?

It's a very different conversation.

Well, there's a part of me that...

wonders if he's taking this out of a playbook of like a lebron james or something where he's putting pressure on the organization you know don't think i'm just automatically happy and coming back pretty rich though for a guy that's making 13 point or 13 million dollars in a cap system to say you better get a bunch of depth 100 that's fair though this is normal

It's impossible.

What if it's not even the Leafs?