Mike Johnson

I think he won both.

Did he?

Okay.

But it might have been him, too, who knows.

But yeah, like, it was always a four...

for the heart, if you were going to be literal and think about value, you could talk about Kucherov and you could talk about Celebrini as offering more value to their teams because their teams maybe weren't quite as deep as Colorado's, as great as Colorado's.

But if you're just talking about best, I had the most goals

Third most points on the team that ran away as the best team, was historically great for 40 games, hits a ton.

He belongs in there.

We can quibble about who does it.

I would take Celebrini out.

If I had to take one out of the Lindsay award, I would take Celebrini.

But that does feel strange.

And maybe it's the McKinnon fatigue, because he's been sort of one of the top couple guys, and it's the Celebrini.

The new guy gets the attention around the league, deservedly so, but at the expense of somebody else.

But

Oh, also, if I'm Dallas or Minnesota, I don't really like the idea of, if I took that stuff personally, Nathan McKinnon in the second round, because he has every reason to think I got sort of ripped off there.

Nate had 25% more goals.

25%.

That's a monster number.