Mike Lazerow

And to this day, I have huge admiration and, and love Mark. I mean, we will both admit he overpaid for the business. I love him, not just because he overpaid, even though I appreciate that mark, how he operates. is phenomenal. He has a saying, just do the right thing. So you ask him a question, hey, what should I do here? The right decision, do the right thing.

And how he's integrated philanthropy into his day-to-day and the amount of impact he's had is incredible. I'm not seeing that level of impact from entrepreneurs who have 10 times the resources that Mark has. So it's really impressive. And he did it from day one.

And how he's integrated philanthropy into his day-to-day and the amount of impact he's had is incredible. I'm not seeing that level of impact from entrepreneurs who have 10 times the resources that Mark has. So it's really impressive. And he did it from day one.

And how he's integrated philanthropy into his day-to-day and the amount of impact he's had is incredible. I'm not seeing that level of impact from entrepreneurs who have 10 times the resources that Mark has. So it's really impressive. And he did it from day one.

So this is not a let's make money and then sprinkle some, this was fully integrated one, one, one Salesforce foundation model from the first day that he launched the company.

So this is not a let's make money and then sprinkle some, this was fully integrated one, one, one Salesforce foundation model from the first day that he launched the company.

So this is not a let's make money and then sprinkle some, this was fully integrated one, one, one Salesforce foundation model from the first day that he launched the company.

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Yeah, so I've had one major failure without CAS. It was after Salesforce. I think I take responsibility for this in the book. primarily my ego got in the way. I started a company with a very close friend who was an artist.

Yeah, so I've had one major failure without CAS. It was after Salesforce. I think I take responsibility for this in the book. primarily my ego got in the way. I started a company with a very close friend who was an artist.

Yeah, so I've had one major failure without CAS. It was after Salesforce. I think I take responsibility for this in the book. primarily my ego got in the way. I started a company with a very close friend who was an artist.

And let's just say we did not do what co-founders should do before starting a business, which is not only get on the same page about strengths, weaknesses, what is the vision, but really the softer things. How hard do we want to work? What are the goals for the business? How are we going to make decisions? And it was just a complete failure.

And let's just say we did not do what co-founders should do before starting a business, which is not only get on the same page about strengths, weaknesses, what is the vision, but really the softer things. How hard do we want to work? What are the goals for the business? How are we going to make decisions? And it was just a complete failure.

And let's just say we did not do what co-founders should do before starting a business, which is not only get on the same page about strengths, weaknesses, what is the vision, but really the softer things. How hard do we want to work? What are the goals for the business? How are we going to make decisions? And it was just a complete failure.

And I'm not going to say Cass said don't do it, but she was very Negative on the idea. We're not, we have the type of relationship where it's not codependent in the sense that there's a very strong, we obviously we have three kids. We've had three dogs, had four dogs. Actually we have done eight companies together, but there's also a me and the me involves I go to a lot of music.

And I'm not going to say Cass said don't do it, but she was very Negative on the idea. We're not, we have the type of relationship where it's not codependent in the sense that there's a very strong, we obviously we have three kids. We've had three dogs, had four dogs. Actually we have done eight companies together, but there's also a me and the me involves I go to a lot of music.

And I'm not going to say Cass said don't do it, but she was very Negative on the idea. We're not, we have the type of relationship where it's not codependent in the sense that there's a very strong, we obviously we have three kids. We've had three dogs, had four dogs. Actually we have done eight companies together, but there's also a me and the me involves I go to a lot of music.

I do stuff with friends. Like we have a life outside of each other. So she wasn't going to say, don't do this. But she gave me all the reasons why it wasn't going to work. And it was one of the few times in my life I didn't listen to her and it cost us a lot of money and time and it was painful. And I think the best part about Cass from my perspective is she's aggressive.