Mike Maxwell

Like,

I thought I was going to do the Sunday comics in the newspaper as a kid.

I didn't know what people did to make money making art.

Were you into comic books at all?

Not really, but I was more leaning towards that kind of aspect of this is how you can survive, actually pay your bills.

and make art still.

But you just wanted to make art, period.

Just wanted to make art.

Right.

And it took... I became an assistant for a really well-known artist who...

You know, ran a design firm, did fine art, did like ran like was just like like at the top of his game.

And I didn't go to art school, but I saw what he was doing.

And a couple other artists like in the same same area was like, OK, you're you're making paintings.

You're you're working with these companies to do some design.

That design money is going back into your art business.

practice, it was just being able to see how something exists and then knowing like, okay, I could do that.

We're already doing the same process, but here is the sort of market of it.

Here's how you survive and here's how you continue to grow and thrive.

It's how you become a professional.

It's how you become a professional.