Mike Maxwell

We had whatever Windows was before that.

3.8 or whatever it was?

3.1.

Is that what it was?

When Windows 95 came out, that was a big day.

It was a big day.

Oh, yeah.

I remember.

You could do stuff.

CD-ROMs.

I got an Apple computer from CompUSA in 1994.

Yeah, I think I was right around, like, 97.

big ass fucking thing too but my friend robbie knew what to buy my friend robbie either he worked in computers or his brother worked in computers so he took me to comp usa i had no idea i'm like what is this my mom um she worked in a computer lab at the community college in san diego and she was like one of the first to start using apple products like everything was pc in the spot and

she knew like something was like getting ready to pop off and she was like like she had the first iphone like early uh like those apples that you know it looked like a tv from the 80s yeah just weighed 600 pounds yeah and actually like got into graphic design early and that's kind of how i started doing some because i made art my whole life but started doing some design like learning how to actually use the computer

What kind of programs were available back then?

Photoshop and Illustrator were out, but it was like one and two.

Wow.

Yeah.

And she was in there and taught me how to do it.

I still do graphic design, but I still use the techniques from 1999.