Mike Mulligan

So as great as it was, and I'm not second-guessing the decision to get the safety, but that then put you in a position where the only way you were going to get up and get someone to help your defensive line was via trade.

And either they didn't want to or they couldn't.

Put that together and make it happen.

Because if you were going to do it, you should have done it there?

I'm saying the only way you would have done it, unless you were willing to combine picks and make a deal, and there were a lot of deals done, by the way,

the only way you were going to do it, get one, was right there.

And that is one of the reasons, even when I made my pick, I said, I didn't think the guy belonged at 25.

I thought that most of the other guys would be gone that belonged at 25.

But that if they wanted one, they had to move there.

Whether it was McDonald's, whether it was...

a Parker, whoever it was, they had to make that move.

And I'm not second-guessing the Thienemann pick.

He's the best player they could have gotten.

He fell to them.

That worked out perfectly.

But then to come back with three offensive players.

Okay, they took Logan Jones with the first of their two second-round picks.

They took a guy who is a starting-level player.

In fact, you draft a center at that spot in the draft, you draft a center like him, you would think he's competing for a starting job.

Okay, so Garrett Bradbury, they gave up a fifth-round pick to get him.