Mike Nellis

And I was telling her, like, I was on conference calls all week going, what are you doing?

Like, this has real energy to it.

Like, get behind it.

This is a window in to start talking about what's going on with corruption and Trump.

And she was like, see, that's the problem right there.

Why are you ever on a conference call having to talk about that?

Like it should be so self-evident that your clients know what they stand for, that it's very easy to like shove the issues through that messaging box.

Right.

And so if you know what you're standing for, what you stand for, it's a lot easier for you to develop a message on what's happening in the news today.

And you see that with the shutdown right now.

The shutdown messaging is good.

It's probably like B minus, maybe B plus.

It's not A plus though.

Go watch AOC and Bernie Sanders video that they put out where they're walking down the street and they're talking about it.

That was not a scripted video.

That was them just shooting the shit.

And it's better than 98% of the things that I've seen put out there because AOC knows exactly what she stands for and Bernie knows exactly what he stands for.

And they can articulate it very clearly.

I don't have a

It was them walking down the street and Bernie being like, hey, look who I ran into.