Mike Nellis

Like that's all it is.

I owe it all to my dad, really.

Yeah.

So my take is that everybody who wants to run should run, including Kamala Harris.

If she thinks that she's the right candidate, she should go stand in front of the voters, build an operation, show that people can do it.

The thing that I care about the most is not so much who the nominee is.

It's that Democratic primary voters choose them, that there is a trial by fire here to build a better campaign and develop a better candidate.

And listen, Kamala Harris had 107 days, which is not enough time to become the candidate that you want.

She was not set up well by the Biden White House over the last four years.

Maybe she can gain and grow and get to the point where I believe her ceiling is, which is becoming president of the United States.

Maybe she can't.

I don't know.

Maybe it's Gretchen Whitmer.

Maybe it's Gavin Newsom.

Maybe it's Josh Pierre.

Maybe it's somebody that nobody's talking about right now.

I want that fight, and I want it for a number of different reasons.

One, it's the best Democratic way to decide the future of the Democratic Party, period.

Two, you're going to develop so much talent inside the Democratic Party from 20 Democratic campaigns.

I don't think people know that, like, when Wes Clark ran for president in 2004, he didn't win, but so much of the leadership that would go on to help Democrats flip the House two years later came off of Wes Clark's campaign, went on Barack Obama's campaign.