Mike Pesca

And what we got to was the prizing of lived experience.

As they say, they usually just call it experience.

But then they put a lived in front of it.

I wonder why.

Yeah, so much more important.

It sounds snobby.

It is a little bit, right?

And I'm a little more, I guess, data-driven and thinking, okay, but if that's just an anecdote, why would that essentially apply to the entire population?

But I did have my mind a little bit changed about the importance, especially what she's doing through art, of talking about her lived experience and being essentially profiled by police when she was nine years old and earlier than

Yeah, so that was good.

That changed me.

Roy Wood and I had a similar conversation.

Alex Edelman, which wasn't part of this series, but definitely part of what I do.

That was a great conversation.

That guy just won a Tony and an Oscar for his one-man show.

Yeah.

And so I just have pretty much enjoyed all of them.

I've got something out of all of them.

And they're all funny here or there.

So you might think, well, you do this a lot.