Mike Pesca

I completely agree.

And, you know, what I worry about is some journalism can be done independently and solo.

You and I are proven this.

But there are some things I would love to do, but I need more resources.

I need literally more physical human beings.

I don't care how many Geminis or Chachipitis you're going to give me.

They all can't walk the street, right?

They can't do the door knocking that you sometimes need in an investigative journalism.

And I think that this is what, you know, my hope is that we'll start to see new consortiums

If you look at the history of UPI, which was a wire service before the AP existed, and AP was a different type of wire service, they started off as attempts to try to allow local news organizations to share resources and share material.

It was in some ways, hey, oh, that might be of use to our readers too.

We can trade off.

And if you figure out how to band these folks together, that maybe they can start working together on collaborative investigative pieces, right?

ProPublica does this a little bit where they'll team up with a news organization.

Notice is doing this with some small independent locals.

They're being the Washington Bureau.

Oh, my gosh.

I just had two of their founders on, two of their young folks on.

Because for me, Mike, Notice is suddenly...

the only news organization based in Washington, DC that covers Washington, DC.