Mike Pesca

Now, McCain was the guy that finished second to Bush in 2000.

So in some ways was following the traditional Republican pattern of who finished second, gets the nomination the next time.

We saw it with Bob Dole after Bush.

We saw it with Bush after Reagan.

We saw it with Reagan after Ford.

You get my drift.

Um,

But you could argue that the nomination of McCain was a way of Republican primary voters going, no, no, no, we're looking for something different too.

We want to turn the page on Bush.

I don't think, as much as I think that there is an appetite for it within a good chunk of the Republican Party, right?

We've seen, you know, the move Mike Pence, pretty bold move Mike Pence made to sort of stake his claim.

And I think what I still think those I still think Mike Pence sees himself as a person who can bridge the old Romney Bush wing of the party with the new Trump MAGA wing of the party.

I still think Pence sees himself as a better bridge to that than, say, a Marco Rubio.

Yeah.

But the most likely result is Trump's VP ends up the nominee, right?

It is very hard to deny a sitting vice president a nomination.

Hubert Humphrey wasn't denied it.

Al Gore wasn't denied it.

Kamala Harris in her own odd way wasn't denied it.

George H.W.