Mike Pesca

So that was two.

I think the third one is what the Democratic Party, the brand, what it means to people, and a lot of it's deserved.

And I have an article in The Atlantic called The HRification of the Democratic Party.

And you've worked in corporate jobs.

You both have.

And HR might be necessary, but it's definitely not beloved.

And I just think the Democrats come across as the HR department, you know, their initiatives and their supposed fun that is compelled and their bureaucracy and their form filling and their DEI and they're not really being that essential to the mission, all that stuff.

It's just like a bummer of an experience.

And even if the non-reptilian parts of your brain are saying to yourself, well, we need HR and aren't the Democrats kind of the adults in the room?

It just doesn't feel good.

Right, because what's one main job of the HR department?

Compliance.

They'll admit that, and compliance isn't what we turn to politics for.

It's not aspirational.

And, you know, Donald Trump, for all his flaws, he's certainly not offering compliance, is he?

No.

And and I think that the Democrats, you know, and that extreme loud part of the party, they have big sway on Democrats who want to say normal things that would appeal to normal people.

But they're a little afraid of what that part of the party will say.

And recently we had a couple of representatives, of course, only after the election saying maybe we should have said something about, you know.

Boys and girls, teens and girls on boys teams.