Mike Pesca

You know, there's he says there's 20 million unlawful people in America.

That's probably too high.

It's probably 12.

If you went after even three or four million, it would be a big deal.

would be a big deal, but it would also really hurt the economy.

He doesn't want to hurt the economy.

He doesn't want to hurt stock markets.

His stated tariff deal is never going to go in at that high price point because it would wreck the economy.

This happened the first time.

When he says something in a speech and people cheer, he'll keep saying it, but that's the sign that he doesn't usually believe in.

I don't think he ever believed Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

When he says something over and over, not in a speech like his goal of deportation and his pardons, that's probably something he will do, but will probably survive it.

And what we forget about in retrospect are things like how much your sweater itched and how tired you were in the morning and these things.

Like, little indignities, and then you remember, I don't know, maybe if the prom was good or that one game where the football team, you know, outkicked the competition.

And so our memory—and this is probably why Trump won, right?

Our memory of it was a little gauzy.

Although I do have to say about that deportation number—

You know, I'm sure the Trump people would say, well, that's all.

It's only that high because we haven't been doing it enough.

If you do it at scale, we'll lower the number.